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If you’re watching the Lions Bucs game. There was just an overturn on overturning a first down. How do you overturn the play when it’s way too close. Wasn’t the intent of the review process to fix an obvious error? That call was anything but obvious.
 
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I’m watching with the sound off so I’m missing context, but he looked clearly short to me.
 
If u ask me to make the call I say short, but to overturn is supposed to be obvious. There is no way that I could tell that the tip of the ball wouldn’t have been on the line again.
 
If u ask me to make the call I say short, but to overturn is supposed to be obvious. There is no way that I could tell that the tip of the ball wouldn’t have been on the line again.

They mentioned on the radio that they thought there was a camera angle provided by TV that was late and not available during the first review. New York then notified the ref of the changed call. Not sure if that was told to them or if they were making an assumption.
 
They mentioned on the radio that they thought there was a camera angle provided by TV that was late and not available during the first review. New York then notified the ref of the changed call. Not sure if that was told to them or if they were making an assumption.

The one on tv he looked short.

The most well officiated college game has 10-15 plays officiated far worse than that review.
 
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The one on tv he looked short.

The most well officiated college game has 10-15 plays officiated far worse than that review.

Yeah. That’s why I’m wondering if that view wasn’t available for the initial review
 
Yeah. That’s why I’m wondering if that view wasn’t available for the initial review

I see so many outright wrong calls every Cyclone game (including to our benefit) that I can’t even be slightly mad at a close replay that seems correct.
 
I see so many outright wrong calls every Cyclone game (including to our benefit) that I can’t even be slightly mad at a close replay that seems correct.

I hope the replay conversations being broadcast like the UFL and the ACC are doing become standard. Just to hear the reasoning behind the calls is great. I think it’ll clear up a lot of controversy to hear what is said about aspects of the video.
 
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I hope the replay conversations being broadcast like the UFL and the ACC are doing become standard. Just to hear the reasoning behind the calls is great. I think it’ll clear up a lot of controversy to hear what is said about aspects of the video.

B12 is next year.
 
If u ask me to make the call I say short, but to overturn is supposed to be obvious. There is no way that I could tell that the tip of the ball wouldn’t have been on the line again.
They have chips in the balls. Lot easier
 
You can sync the timing. It works the same way tennis does
It is not being used to spot the ball yet:

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Yes, a chip has been in the football since 2017 to track data for Next Gen Stats, but it is not currently used to make official calls like line-to-gain measurements. The chip's tracking is not accurate enough for official use, so the NFL still relies on human officials and cameras to spot the ball for crucial plays. The league is testing a separate camera-based system (Hawk-Eye) to potentially replace the physical chains in the future, but it is not yet fully implemented.
 
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You can sync the timing. It works the same way tennis does
Hawk-Eye Line-Calling System. Hawk-eye is a technology used in tennis for determining if the ball is in or out. This line-calling system uses multiple camera angles to trace the tennis ball's trajectory. Hawk-Eye uses six or more computer-linked television cameras situated around the court.

This is quite different than what's required for ball location when the knee, elbow, forearm, butt, shin, etc. hit the ground in football.
 
Hawk-Eye Line-Calling System. Hawk-eye is a technology used in tennis for determining if the ball is in or out. This line-calling system uses multiple camera angles to trace the tennis ball's trajectory. Hawk-Eye uses six or more computer-linked television cameras situated around the court.

This is quite different than what's required for ball location when the knee, elbow, forearm, butt, shin, etc. hit the ground in football.
Well, if it is called the Hawk-eye system, I am strongly opposed to it, just on principle. And to the earlier question about chips - potato versus corn - what a dumb question, obviously the answer is always corn.
 

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