*** Official #22 IOWA STATE vs Colorado Game(Day) Thread ***

[HouClone]

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He’s clearly been hurt since the Arizona game when he also got hurt playing meaningless snaps. Total non factor last week and then went down multiple times today. Sure he’ll be back after the bye week but I’m sure nowhere near 100%

Big Citrus has been playing like a prune when in there. He needs to sit and recover, then show the NFL scouts how disruptive he can be at the Liberty Bowl.

 

[BryceC]

I only show up in “bad times” in your eyes because there are so many. You’ll notice I wasn’t here last week because I was at the game supporting the team. Kiss my ass moron

Says the guy ripping on the staff with zero understanding of the rules.

 

[acoustimac]

Interesting to catch up on the thread this morning. A few comments, repeated over and over by many pretty much sums this up.
Rocco threw a bad pass (that’s a pick ‘em as there were a bunch)
Not having a kicker (time for campus tryouts?)
Execution by the offense was poor (where’s the attention to detail)
Undisciplined (more penalties in two games than the rest of the season)

 

[fsanford]

Interesting to catch up on the thread this morning. A few comments, repeated over and over by many pretty much sums this up.
Rocco threw a bad pass (that’s a pick ‘em as there were a bunch)
Not having a kicker (time for campus tryouts?)
Execution by the offense was poor (where’s the attention to detail)
Undisciplined (more penalties in two games than the rest of the season)

Hopefully the kicker issue is resolved with rest and healing
Drops were mentioned a lot. On the slant,1st drive, that was a TD. World looks different if the ball is caught

 

[AlaCyclone]

 

[madguy30]

Hopefully the kicker issue is resolved with rest and healing
Drops were mentioned a lot. On the slant,1st drive, that was a TD. World looks different if the ball is caught

At least two in the 2nd half too.

A TE (can't remember) dropped one that would have at least gone for a huge gain, and the ball to Sama on the sideline is likely a score if thrown well.

 

[KidSilverhair]

Actually, the Freshman lineman kicked that one.

As far as the post play jawing. When you blow someone up on a block. They already know they got blasted. Leave it alone.

The best part of that block was actually Sama blasting into Moore’s back and pushing both him and the defender into the end zone. Moore was taunting over something that Sama actually did!

 

[NoCreativity]

Hope MBB makes a final 4 which I think is realistic. It is what it is.

I've given up on that idea. Last year was our best shot since 2000 and we have our best player deciding to quit a week before March Madness starts.

 

[1SEIACLONE]

How about the no call when the CU slot receiver was backing off the line as the ball was snapped and then ran upfield and caught a 20 something yard pass. Even the announcers were questioning that no call.

 

[KidSilverhair]

I posted this in the “how did the officials pick up that flag?” thread but in case you missed there …

- The ball is high in the air. It’s heading for the end zone, or at least near the sideline of the end zone.

- Brahmer is already being tackled with the ball in the air and not yet touched by the LB.

- If he had not been grabbed and pulled down by the DB, Brahmer would have had the opportunity to plant his foot and cut to the sideline, where the pass was headed.

This is not “uncatchable” because the pass was never getting to the end zone. It clearly was. This is not “uncatchable” because Brahmer was going to keep on steaming straight ahead through the end zone - we’ll never know, because he was grabbed and tackled by the DB.

This is pass interference, clear and simple, and anybody arguing Brahmer could never have gotten to the ball simply. Does. Not. Know. That.

 

[MeowingCows]

There was definitely some creative officiating yesterday... Worst game of the year for us in that area. Regardless, these are still the kind of teams our system and discipline should beat pretty handily. Instead, we gave back to back weeks of largely sucking and need to figure out how to stop sucking so much. We looked great against ARI and haven't been able to replicate that since.

 

[3TrueFans]

I posted this in the “how did the officials pick up that flag?” thread but in case you missed there …

- The ball is high in the air. It’s heading for the end zone, or at least near the sideline of the end zone.

- Brahmer is already being tackled with the ball in the air and not yet touched by the LB.

- If he had not been grabbed and pulled down by the DB, Brahmer would have had the opportunity to plant his foot and cut to the sideline, where the pass was headed.

This is not “uncatchable” because the pass was never getting to the end zone. It clearly was. This is not “uncatchable” because Brahmer was going to keep on steaming straight ahead through the end zone - we’ll never know, because he was grabbed and tackled by the DB.

This is pass interference, clear and simple, and anybody arguing Brahmer could never have gotten to the ball simply. Does. Not. Know. That.

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Was Brahmer going to come back and catch the ball on the two yard line?

 

[KidSilverhair]

Was Brahmer going to come back and catch the ball on the two yard line?

THE BALL WASN’T LANDING AT THE TWO YARD LINE.

THE FACT THE BALL IS INTERCEPTED SOMEWHERE DOESN’T AUTOMATICALLY MAKE IT UNCATCHABLE.

Brahmer was being prevented from running his route before the pass. That could be considered holding. He was TACKLED while the ball was in the air, before it was intercepted - look at the picture! That’s ABSOLUTELY interference.

At least in my mind. I must admit I do not have a deep understanding of NCAA football rules (although as a former radio play-by-play guy who almost got into high school officiating, I have a decent grasp of the rules).

The offense happened BEFORE the interception. Having the LB leap into the air and intercept the ball doesn’t negate the foul.

 

[CyGuy5]

How about the no call when the CU slot receiver was backing off the line as the ball was snapped and then ran upfield and caught a 20 something yard pass. Even the announcers were questioning that no call.

I lost my mind at that one in the stands. How do you miss that call?

 

[NWICY]

I’d be beyond interested to see what we could do with 20 million to spend in a year.

Well 20 million gets you to the new base level. All schools have to pay the 20 million in salary to players. It'll be interesting to see how it gets divided up between sports

 

[madguy30]

How about the no call when the CU slot receiver was backing off the line as the ball was snapped and then ran upfield and caught a 20 something yard pass. Even the announcers were questioning that no call.

In the 4th quarter a CU RB also moved early including forward motion.

That didn't define the game but holy cow, middle school refs can catch that.

 

[3TrueFans]

THE BALL WASN’T LANDING AT THE TWO YARD LINE.

THE FACT THE BALL IS INTERCEPTED SOMEWHERE DOESN’T AUTOMATICALLY MAKE IT UNCATCHABLE.

Brahmer was being prevented from running his route before the pass. That could be considered holding. He was TACKLED while the ball was in the air, before it was intercepted - look at the picture! That’s ABSOLUTELY interference.

At least in my mind. I must admit I do not have a deep understanding of NCAA football rules (although as a former radio play-by-play guy who almost got into high school officiating, I have a decent grasp of the rules).

The offense happened BEFORE the interception. Having the LB leap into the air and intercept the ball doesn’t negate the foul.

ARTICLE 4. A catchable forward pass is an untouched legal forward passbeyond the neutral zone to an eligible player who has a reasonable opportunity to catch the ball. When in question, a legal forward pass is catchable.

Brahmer was 4ish yards in the end zone, the ball was intercepted at the 2, how did he have a reasonable chance to catch it? Yeah sure, if the guy that intercepted it wasn't there maybe, but he was and the ball stopped at the 2 yard line.

As a thought experiment, imagine the ball is instead intercepted by a lineman jumping at the line of scrimmage. Would Brahmer still have had a reasonable opportunity to catch the pass?

 

[KidSilverhair]

Let me add this - the argument about the interception making the pass uncatchable doesn’t hold water if you think of it this way.

A DB grabs a receiver and throws him to the ground three yards downfield, then intercepts the pass. The receiver clearly couldn’t get to the ball, he was on the ground five yards away. Is that “uncatchable”? Does that negate the interference?

If so, it opens up a whole new strategy of pass defense.

 

[3TrueFans]

Let me add this - the argument about the interception making the pass uncatchable doesn’t hold water if you think of it this way.

A DB grabs a receiver and throws him to the ground three yards downfield, then intercepts the pass. The receiver clearly couldn’t get to the ball, he was on the ground five yards away. Is that “uncatchable”? Does that negate the interference?

If so, it opens up a whole new strategy of pass defense.

There would be a couple of things to consider I think. If the grabbing and throwing is before the pass then it's just holding. Then the default call if there's a doubt is that the ball is catchable, so if the ball gets somewhere in the vicinity of the receiver they would probably rule it as catchable and PI. If that all happens but the ball is thrown to a LB sitting 6 yards in front of the receiver then you get the gray area of was it catchable.

 

[CoachHines3]

ARTICLE 4. A catchable forward pass is an untouched legal forward passbeyond the neutral zone to an eligible player who has a reasonable opportunity to catch the ball. When in question, a legal forward pass is catchable.

Brahmer was 4ish yards in the end zone, the ball was intercepted at the 2, how did he have a reasonable chance to catch it? Yeah sure, if the guy that intercepted it wasn't there maybe, but he was and the ball stopped at the 2 yard line.

As a thought experiment, imagine the ball is instead intercepted by a lineman jumping at the line of scrimmage. Would Brahmer still have had a reasonable opportunity to catch the pass?

he didn’t have a chance to catch it, is the thing. Of course it’s uncatchable where it was thrown, but if he wasn’t tackled could he have come back to the ball and made a play on it? Potentially.