*** Official #22 IOWA STATE vs Colorado Game(Day) Thread ***

[KidSilverhair]

I was a little harsh on the 3rd down QB draw call.

It was very dumb, but in retrospect , the “call” per se wasnt the entirety…..but the formation and subsequent execution out of that formation……then followed up with the decision to punt.

It’s kind of like people complaining about the gimmick call on the snap to Burkle - it he hadn’t bobbled the ball and instead have strolled into the end zone, the talk would be “great call” and “Mouser drew up a creative play that fooled Colorado.” But since the execution was bad, many folks are complaining about how bad the call was.

If Rocco had found a hole and ran for 12 yards on that draw, nobody would be saying it was dumb. Execution matters.

It’s like everyone yelling “Just run the QB sneak!” every time it’s 3rd or 4th and short and Mouser sends in a handoff … and then last week in Cincinnati Rocco got stuffed on a QB sneak on 4th and short. Good plays don’t always work every time.

Running a deep handoff out of the shotgun on short yardage, though, truly is a bad call, whether it works or not.

 

[besserheimerphat]

I disagree. @cyclonez7 is right, they’re not converting quality drives into points. A tiny part of that is the kicker, the rest is overthinking play calling, or getting scared, or—I don’t know. It seems like they get into obvious pitch-to-Hansen field positions (inside the 30) and just go deer in headlights cause he’s out. But, the play calling overall isn’t good enough. I didn’t have a chance to watch much of the game today, but I saw the last ~eight minutes, and their turnover on downs at their 20 or whatever, they got screwed with the spot, but Colorado isn’t stopping Brahmer if you just run the same play again. When Mouser is confident you can tell because it doesn’t seem like he’s just throwing darts at a board for the next call, and he stays in the same vein of what’s working

Checked the play-by-play, and we had 3 drives get within 28 yards of the endzone and netted 3 points. And we are basically giving up 10 yards of net field position on every kickoff - we get it on the 25 from a touchback, and opponents get it on the 30+ since we can't kick it deep or keep it in the air long enough for coverage to get down field. That stuff adds up when we aren't playing well and aren't significantly better than our opponents to start with.

 

[t-noah]

We are a good team, but not a great team. Perhaps we were close to being a very good team before the injuries. Now, ?

What I remember most about the game today, we came out hot on the first 2 offensive series (along with good D on their first 2), but then killed both of those 1st 2 drives with penalties! Dumb. We cannot do that and expect to be able to recover. We let Colorado largely control the game after that.

 

[WartburgClone]

Hope MBB makes a final 4 which I think is realistic.

Not falling for it this time.

 

[Koala]

Not falling for it this time.

We'll at least have a good idea after the non-con schedule

 

[t-noah]

Checked the play-by-play, and we had 3 drives get within 28 yards of the endzone and netted 3 points. And we are basically giving up 10 yards of net field position on every kickoff - we get it on the 25 from a touchback, and opponents get it on the 30+ since we can't kick it deep or keep it in the air long enough for coverage to get down field. That stuff adds up when we aren't playing well and aren't significantly better than our opponents to start with.

Pretty good summary of the game today.

 

[cyphoon]

And we are basically giving up 10 yards of net field position on every kickoff - we get it on the 25 from a touchback, and opponents get it on the 30+ since we can't kick it deep

And because Tyler Moore can't keep his mouth shut, we gifted them another 15 yards after a key touchdown. Yeah, you made a nice block. Now STFU can get ready for the next play.

Instead, we collect a 15 yard penalty after the play is over, and put even more pressure on our walk-on kicker. This is the opposite of "winning in the margins".

H

 

[1SEIACLONE]

Campbell calls it 'winning in the margins". we are not doing it now, giving up turnovers and not getting them, loosing our cool and getting silly penalties and not doing the little things that we were doing at the start of the season that we no longer are doing. Its injuries, mistakes, shaky coaching and refusing to change what worked in the past and no longer does.

 

[danvillecyclone]

And because Tyler Moore can't keep his mouth shut, we gifted them another 15 yards after a key touchdown. Yeah, you made a nice block. Now STFU can get ready for the next play.

Instead, we collect a 15 yard penalty after the play is over, and put even more pressure on our walk-on kicker. This is the opposite of "winning in the margins".

H

Actually, the Freshman lineman kicked that one.

As far as the post play jawing. When you blow someone up on a block. They already know they got blasted. Leave it alone.

 

[ClonesTwenty1]

I was surprised at the crowd noise during the plays when ISU did well. Good for you all for traveling. Maybe we just view ISU football as amusing entertainment with occasional bright spots going forward. That's our ceiling. Hope MBB makes a final 4 which I think is realistic. It is what it is.

The basketball team can’t stay healthy either

 

[deadeyededric]

NIL is ruining the sport IMO… we clearly can’t compete with dollars… by the way tear grape gone wild ads are pissing me off… but at least the days of losing 51-7 appear to be over. That’s a plus. We are a couple of plays away from 7-0… and we should be …

I don't know that it's killing the sport but it does suck that the major change it's caused hasn't been advantageous to ISU at all. I don't think it's put us at much more of a disadvantage in the grand scheme of things than we were in before.

 

[deadeyededric]

Yep... people saying "if Indiana can to it, we can do it" might not understand the money aspect. Indiana has Mark Cuban for one thing. Not really a fair comparison.

I'm pretty sure they have a few billionaire donors. Best thing that could happen for ISU is someone on this board wins the Powerball

 

[Darius Bieber]

I don't know that it's killing the sport but it does suck that the major change it's caused hasn't been advantageous to ISU at all. I don't think it's put us at much more of a disadvantage in the grand scheme of things than we were in before.

It might soon. Unfortunately we’re one of the “poorer” P4 teams in terms of donors/NIL. In fact, I think a few G5 programs have us beat.

 

[deadeyededric]

It might soon. Unfortunately we’re one of the “poorer” P4 teams in terms of donors/NIL. In fact, I think a few G5 programs have us beat.

Im definitely not a fan of this era of college football I'm just not sure we're at any more of a disadvantage than we were before. Its certainly debatable though. We didn't exactly have deep pockets in the old system. I think the frustrating thing for most people is seeing some of the programs(Tech,Indiana, even Vandy) who are getting a place at the "big boys" table simply by having a rich alum write a check.

 

[ClonesTwenty1]

I'm pretty sure they have a few billionaire donors. Best thing that could happen for ISU is someone on this board wins the Powerball

I’d be beyond interested to see what we could do with 20 million to spend in a year.

 

[deadeyededric]

I’d be beyond interested to see what we could do with 20 million to spend in a year.

The same thing Tech and Indiana are doing. We could have a legitimate top 10 team. I mean a team that could actually do something in the playoffs IMO.

 

[Cloneman89]

Team was overwhelmed and could not execute. WR’s could not catch, qb was off all day. Schemes were weak and coaches were outcoached. Refs weee atrocious but they always are so screw them. We looked middle of the road and probs 7-5

 

[Cloneman89]

I drove and was there - it was a huge letdown. Fans were pisssd at terrible play calls. QB run on 3rd and 10? Dumbest play ever.

 

[deadeyededric]

I drove and was there - it was a huge letdown. Fans were pisssd at terrible play calls. QB run on 3rd and 10? Dumbest play ever.

At least you got to spend a day or 2 in Boulder. That place is gorgeous. You won either way

 

[deadeyededric]

Team was overwhelmed and could not execute. WR’s could not catch, qb was off all day. Schemes were weak and coaches were outcoached. Refs weee atrocious but they always are so screw them. We looked middle of the road and probs 7-5

I don't think we were ever much better than a 7-5 or 8-4 team anyway. Sure if we caught all the breaks maybe we could have won 11. Really good teams can play bad and still get wins and this team never had that ability.