Another decommit

[Cyclonepride]

High school recruiting isn't going to be all that fun to follow for ISU fans, unfortunately. I don't mean because it's going to be really bad, it's just that unless you are going to spend hours looking at 3-star type guys trying to pick out who is going to work out and how they fit, it's just not going to be exciting. Sure, we will have some high level guys stick with us once in awhile but expecting a kid to turn down 6 figures right out of high school isn't reasonable.

Yep, and I am 100% fine with our strategy of player development and paying the guys who are already here

 

[bozclone]

To your question, all I can say is... maybe? For every kid that gets the early offer, blows up and has to take that larger money bag (or whatever greener pasture) -- there will be a select few that actually stay committed. I think someone like Lazard would possibly stay true, Breece...who knows? Every situation is genuinely unique because it depends on what is important to the kid and family.

Big picture though, I agree with what you say next. I'm not really worried at all, and that was the unsaid part of my post above. The football program and culture is really healthy right now. The most critical thing at this point is keeping this football staff intact...not necessarily keeping every coach but keeping as many of them as possible, especially CMC. Hopefully we can keep Mouse and the Professor for several more years too. The player-led culture that's blossomed the last couple years in particular is what is going to keep this thing going, and I think that component will also attract the 'right kind' of players we can be successful at a high level with at Iowa State.

I agree with this. If we have CMC and his staff, they will develop kids and create a culture that will be successful. I think it is more important that we retain our best players vs landing a high school recruit that has not proven anything at this level.

 

[VeloClone]

Oh so he we will transfer back in a year or two like the last time this happened at the same position?

Not if all the ISU twitter warriors don't stop slamming him. If you have nothing nice to say to the kid, don't post. It isn't hard.

 

[VeloClone]

Maybe but do you think we're getting Breece Hall in today's environment? Do you think Allen Lazard sticks? It's not many guys, to be sure, but it's just going to be pretty tough to compete against some of the figures that are out there if guys are really wanted.

There is a difference now, though, where we are in a whole different group of teams with the same challenge. Before we with like Kansas and Washington State, maybe Vanderbilt. Now we're in a massive group with expectations of "getting there" but when it comes down to it we're outgunned by the top 20ish programs instead of being outgunned by the top 50ish programs so even though this is all seems bleak we're in such a better position than we've ever been.

I think it is pretty naive to think that some of those guys weren't offered "a little extra" at some of those schools that were trying to pull them away from an ISU committment.

 

[harimad]

We only have so much money, so we got gas station sushi instead of fuel. Choices, man.

gas station sushi and diner lobster, that's just who we are

 

[cytor]

With ISU, it's gonna be Culture vs Cash

 

[Kettes]

With ISU, it's gonna be Culture vs Cash

And "culture" won't keep you in the top 10.

 

[ClonesFTW]

This is why my interest in recruiting is near 0 in the last few years. I'll root for whomever shows up in August.

 

[harimad]

Son of a *****.... he's in it for the MONEY not the football.

 

[Kettes]

This is why my interesting in recruiting is near 0 in the last few years. I'll root for whomever shows up in August.

1,000%

 

[Yaz]

Once the new AD-administered NIL rules take place shouldn’t this stop being the norm? ISU will have just as much money to spend on players as Miami, et al. And it will just come down to does ISU want to allocate that much $ to any individual player versus just being out bid

Are you implying that money in a paper bag is not going to happen anymore? No way that stops just because of new NIL rules. If they did it before NIL, they are going to do it again... I don't see that changing which is the reality of it. Hopefully im wrong.

 

[Klubber]

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/sports/college/iowa-state/football-recruiting/2025/10/07/iowa-state-football-recruiting-cyclones-four-star-wide-receiver-decommit-milan-parris/86574520007/

And in related news, this happens at every P-4 school.

I'm not shooting the messenger here. But of course this thread will turn into the usual "ISU will never retain recruits/players or win in the NIL era; we suck, we shouldn't recruit HS players, basketball and football are screwed", yada, yada, yada.

But in fact, we actually have a good track record of retaining our top talent/recruits in hoops and football and our records in both during the NIL era speaks for itself.

 

[BWRhasnoAC]

I find it amusing that when someone switches to ISU from somewhere else (N. Illinois, Bowling Green etc..) we're happy and nothing is said about the high school athlete 'not being 100% committed' to the prior school. But when a high school athlete that was committed to ISU switches to another school, posters bring up the players '100% or 1000% committed' to ISU posts. Wish the athlete well and move on.

I'm glad that ISU coaches are getting Jett and Milan to commit to ISU; at least temporarily until a blue blood program steps in. Going forward, the goal is to keep them committed through signing day. But if we can't keep them committed, we will flip some more MAC or MVFC school commits to ISU. The wheel goes round and round.

It's pretty simple. Sit on the bench at ISU for minimum wage, or get 6 figures to sit at a blue blood. We're gonna lose that 98% of the time.

 

[BryceC]

Son of a *****.... he's in it for the MONEY not the football.

He’s probably in it for both.

Again, it’s probably stupid money if Miami is involved. At some point you have to be smart about it.

 

[CycloneVet]

People saying we wouldn’t have gotten Breece or Lazard in this climate should remember we kept them when I’m sure they were offered cash to leave. Granted they would have had to sit out a year I believe at the time. We also kept Will McDonald when we could have transferred for cash. They stayed so who knows. I wouldn’t put anything past Campbell.

That being said onydiem sp? Is having a decent year at A&M so culture doesn’t mean as much to some guys. I’m guessing his asking price didn’t match his ISU production and CMC didn’t match the offer.

 

[MustardTiger]

Did he get his offer yanked?

 

[Aclone]

Who's the other(s)? Looking at his offers flying in the last couple months this isn't surprising

Jett Thomalla to Bama.

 

[trajanJ]

I thought players could take the payment or opt for “true” NIL money? The latter will keep the big spenders where they are, if so.

That's how I understand it also. Each school is currently limited to 20.5 million to spend on athletes although there's rumors that figure will go up, but that doesn't count legit NIL deals that players can make.

 

[danvillecyclone]

I hit 3 of 6 on the Mega Millions last night.

Unfortunately it’s only worth $20 and not $250 Million.

 

[besserheimerphat]

We only have so much money, so we got gas station sushi instead of fuel. Choices, man.

At least SOMETHING will be running.