Cracks in the B1G?

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Rumors circulating some Big 10 teams want unequal revenue sharing as they feel their brand should be paid more than lower branded teams. Which makes sense when you look at all the teams now included. Pac 10 teams left to chase money. Why wouldn't they continue to chase money?

But some B10 posters here don't think it will occur and equal revenue sharing will persist just because.. well.. because it benefits their school.

Did I get that right?

Remember B10 fans... the five stages of grieving. Step one is denial
Iowa, Minnesota, Indiana, Illinois, Northwestern, Purdue, Maryland, and Rutgers are different than Arizona, Arizona St, Oregon St, Washington St, Utah, Colorado, Kansas, Kansas St, Iowa St, Texas Tech, Oklahoma St because _____.
 
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Of all the things and turmoil of realignment, Greed is the only constant and it’s undefeated. I’m sure it will just stop now because it hurts some people narratives and feelings, though.
 
Of course he didn’t, he gave a non answer like he is trained to do so no one gets upset. If he shoots it down a portion of his fan base and maybe some alumni get pissed. If he says he’s pushing for it then the rest of the big ten gets pissed.

It’s the perfect non answer that the reporter turned into a headline to get this many people engaging on a non story
No - the perfect non answer would be

"Unequal revenue sharing is a topic that might be discussed in the future among Big 10 members, but no such discussions are currently underway and no discussions are currently planned"
 
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No - the perfect non answer would be

"Unequal revenue sharing is a topic that might be discussed in the future among Big 10 members, but no such discussions are currently underway and no discussions are currently planned"
That’s fair, I think his answer is pretty much the same but also agree that yours is much better
 
Of course he didn’t, he gave a non answer like he is trained to do so no one gets upset. If he shoots it down a portion of his fan base and maybe some alumni get pissed. If he says he’s pushing for it then the rest of the big ten gets pissed.

It’s the perfect non answer that the reporter turned into a headline to get this many people engaging on a non story
The reporter didn’t turn it into a headline. This is a USA Today publication.
 
Oklahoma also said same things to Ballsby while meeting with ESPN.. There is no way Ohio State won’t push for unequal sharing.

But the difference between blue blood Big12 & ACC schools historically making a push for unequal revenue sharing is they KNEW they had a landing spot where they could make more money- the Big10 or SEC.

Just don't see OSU, Michigan, Georgia, Alabama, etc. having the same leverage. Conversely, since there are fewer than 3-5 schools in either the Big10 or SEC that have true media viewership leverage, that gives more power to current Big10/SEC schools like Iowa, Minnesota, Arkansas, Mississippi, etc.

And don't see schools like Northwestern, Rutgers, Vanderbilt, Mississippi State being pushed out. IMO it's more likely they would choose to leave if there is a 2nd Tier CFB division where money is still good (aka Big12/ACC levels) and they feel they could be more competitive. As the Big10/SEC grow to 20+ schools, incremental or dilutive $ impact is smaller.

Where the real upside exists is if Netflix, Apple, Amazon start spending on college football. Or if ESPN & FOX decide casual sport fans are willing to pay for subscriptions vs. OTA games. I will be curious how ESPN and FOX DTC platforms evolve/grow between now and 2029.
 
Of course he didn’t, he gave a non answer like he is trained to do so no one gets upset. If he shoots it down a portion of his fan base and maybe some alumni get pissed. If he says he’s pushing for it then the rest of the big ten gets pissed.

It’s the perfect non answer that the reporter turned into a headline to get this many people engaging on a non story
I'm not sure "non-story" is correct. His comment is pretty bland, but it's the first public comment I can recall that mentioned future conversations about the topic. It may not happen soon, but that wasn't someone shutting the door on the possibility either. You can be optimistic, but inferring that it'll never happen in this landscape is a great way to set yourself up for disappointment.

We have PLENTY of experience on such things. You're dealing with a very jaded fanbase regarding this subject. Hearing the national media practically root for your demise for a decade puts a fan in a fighting stance.
 
I'm not sure "non-story" is correct. His comment is pretty bland, but it's the first public comment I can recall that mentioned future conversations about the topic. It may not happen soon, but that wasn't someone shutting the door on the possibility either. You can be optimistic, but inferring that it'll never happen in this landscape is a great way to set yourself up for disappointment.

We have PLENTY of experience on such things. You're dealing with a very jaded fanbase regarding this subject. Hearing the national media practically root for your demise for a decade puts a fan in a fighting stance.
Yep totally get that now the this fanbase and have had a bunch of conversations like that before. The belief that since it happened here it has to happen everywhere is pretty strong but I understand why.

I would have been shocked if he shut the door because that would have just gotten him pushback from some of his fans and possibly alumni.

I agree on your point about first comment but I don’t know how often college presidents are asked this instead of AD’s
 
That’s fair, I think his answer is pretty much the same but also agree that yours is much better
Only difference is he gave an example about viewership from the Texas OSU game. So one can read between the lines to see he feels there should be unequal revenue distribution. Why give the example if unequal revenue sharing likely won't happen?

That's really what is driving this. And look what happened at other conferences: the power teams in the conference will get what they want. Teams like Illinois and Minnesota agree to these terms because they know they would still get more money vs if there was more conference realignments
 
But the difference between blue blood Big12 & ACC schools historically making a push for unequal revenue sharing is they KNEW they had a landing spot where they could make more money- the Big10 or SEC.

Just don't see OSU, Michigan, Georgia, Alabama, etc. having the same leverage. Conversely, since there are fewer than 3-5 schools in either the Big10 or SEC that have true media viewership leverage, that gives more power to current Big10/SEC schools like Iowa, Minnesota, Arkansas, Mississippi, etc.

And don't see schools like Northwestern, Rutgers, Vanderbilt, Mississippi State being pushed out. IMO it's more likely they would choose to leave if there is a 2nd Tier CFB division where money is still good (aka Big12/ACC levels) and they feel they could be more competitive. As the Big10/SEC grow to 20+ schools, incremental or dilutive $ impact is smaller.

Where the real upside exists is if Netflix, Apple, Amazon start spending on college football. Or if ESPN & FOX decide casual sport fans are willing to pay for subscriptions vs. OTA games. I will be curious how ESPN and FOX DTC platforms evolve/grow between now and 2029.

Hey poor "taker" schools we're giving you these choices:
A. Unequal revenue sharing
B. We're leaving for super league and you'll make even less than unequal revenue sharing

Result: poor "taker" schools unanimously vote for unequal revenue sharing
 
Hey poor "taker" schools we're giving you these choices:
A. Unequal revenue sharing
B. We're leaving for super league and you'll make even less than unequal revenue sharing

Result: poor "taker" schools unanimously vote for unequal revenue sharing
You believe in a 20 team super league then? Because that’s the only way this is happening and I don’t see that happening in the next decade
 
You believe in a 20 team super league then? Because that’s the only way this is happening and I don’t see that happening in the next decade

Another option is a separate champions league type system where the top teams play in addition to the current format.
 
Yep totally get that now the this fanbase and have had a bunch of conversations like that before. The belief that since it happened here it has to happen everywhere is pretty strong but I understand why.

I would have been shocked if he shut the door because that would have just gotten him pushback from some of his fans and possibly alumni.

I agree on your point about first comment but I don’t know how often college presidents are asked this instead of AD’s
I was surprised the answer wasn't filled with the normal "We're happy with the Big 10 conference... we've displayed success....we're unified...." blah blah blah answer that never addresses the question.

He must have gotten a C on his Mundane Responses to Controversial Questions final
 
I was surprised the answer wasn't filled with the normal "We're happy with the Big 10 conference... we've displayed success....we're unified...." blah blah blah answer that never addresses the question.

He must have gotten a C on his Mundane Responses to Controversial Questions final
He still had that

“I would just tell you that we're a proud member of the Big Ten, and that's where we're going to stay.”
 
Yes it is, it’s in his second point on the post. The only way you believe that OSU leaves is if you believe in a 20 team super league. There isn’t another option

My ultimate hope is the 20 team super league happens, the rest of the schools give them the double birds and we get back to playing college football minus those 20 teams. There would still be enough good football to go around.
 
My ultimate hope is the 20 team super league happens, the rest of the schools give them the double birds and we get back to playing college football minus those 20 teams. There would still be enough good football to go around.
I both don’t want a super league and don’t think it’s going to happen. If it somehow did it would mean I would be watching a lot less MSU football and a lot more Michigan football which would be annoying but again, I highly doubt that happens in the next decade.