Anybody want to clarify how this works from a scholarship standpoint? Is he taking up a scholarship in each sport? I mean otherwise what's to keep us from parking a grad transfer big for the basketball team, say, on the track team?
Wiltz doing track
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No track scholarship. When I was on team we had some dudes do this and the track team loves it because it doesnt count towards their allotted 12.6 scholarships for track and xc.
track has scholarhips but its 12.6 total split between roughly 60 people. so almost everyone is on a % scholarship. To get a full ride in track you have to be scoring at nationals.
If a scholarship player plays more than one sport and one of them is football, the scholly is considered a FB scholly. If one of the sports is BB and the other sport is not FB then it is considered a BB scholly. If it is two other sports there is no NCAA mandated rule on how they have to count the scholarship.
Back in the day practically Nebraska's entire WR corps was on track scholarships as well as a RB here and there as a sprinter. Track simply became a way for the FB team to have 10 or so extra scholarships.
Back in the day practically Nebraska's entire WR corps was on track scholarships as well as a RB here and there as a sprinter. Track simply became a way for the FB team to have 10 or so extra scholarships.
I figured it was something like that.
So if a player is BB & FB, I'd assume it'd be counted FB then.
Yes. If an athlete has a scholarship and plays football it is always counted against FB.
This is also how Butch Davis worked around the loss of scholarships at the U when he took over after scandal 1. Most notably Santana Moss was brought to the U on track scholly so he could play football (but he was also a good track guy too).
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Iowa State had an Ames High guy, Andy Kohler (he occasionally posts on CF), who was a walk-on WR on the FB team and had a track scholly as a high jumper. He was only practice team fodder for three years because they would have had to count his scholarship as FB if they ever let him play in a game. Finally his junior year they converted his scholly over to FB so he could play. Unfortunately he had a season ending injury just a few weeks into the season. He came back and was listed as a started at the end of spring ball. He blew out his other knee before the season even started his senior year.
Considering how the powers of college football abused olympic sport scholarships it is probably a good rule.
Considering how the powers of college football abused olympic sport scholarships it is probably a good rule.
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This is the spot we need to be in. Football players that happen to be fast enough to run on the track team, ala Baylor. Keep on trucking CMC!
So out of curiosity, what's keeping a school like Kansas or Kentucky from putting a kid on a football transfer, and the then walk on for basketball? Other than it may be blatantly obvious if a guy like Calipari did this, but would it be against the rules? It's not like one less scholarship for Kansas football is going to dramatically change how much they suck. Hell, ku fans would be thrilled to give up a football scholarship for an extra bball player. The coaches obviously would not be impressed.
*He says about CPR recruits.
Ruth and Wiltz, who is the other one? What kind of times do these guys have?
I think you're missing the fact that a player has to actually compete on both teams...
Ehh, standing on the sideline during practice wouldn't be that hard.
I'm not saying this should or would happen, but just curious if there's any real rules to stopping it.
Yes there are. I remember specifically in the 30 for 30 "The U, Part 1" this was addressed regarding the Santana Moss situation I mentioned earlier. Butch Davis stated something to the effect that in order to have Santana on track scholarship and play football Santana also had to be a contributing member of the track team (in other words he had to run and be decent, which was fine because he was more than decent for the track team).
I apologize. I could swear that I typed "compete" rather than "stand on the sideline during practice". Sorry for that little slipup.
Wiltz track bio had him at 10.51 wind aided at 100m in high school. I think he ran a legit 10.7 to place like 4th at the state meet as a senior..don't quote me on that it won't load on my phone, but I looked last night. Ruth isn't quite as fast as Wiltz.
