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Will we make the ncaa tournament (PIG doesn't count)

Will we make the ncaa tournament (PIG doesn't count)

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Brass tacks assessment. Path of least resistance to make the field, pretty much safe from "First Four":
at Kansas L
at Texas W
Oklahoma W
at Kansas State L
TCU W
at Texas Tech L
Baylor W
Oklahoma State W
at West Virginia L

18-12 (10-8)

If that occurs, Big 12 tournament performance is unlikely to matter, since we’re probably at 5/6 seeding with that record, with splits vs. TCU and Tech, sweeps over OU, OSU, UT. Could gain insurance with quarterfinal win, if it’s needed, but it wouldn’t move the needle much.

Many of us didn’t imagine we’d be having bubble discussions this season, but this is the hand we’re dealt.
 
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Gunnerclone said:
I agree but this is life in the big 12. I remember being at Hilton in the Royce year playing a good Baylor team the last game of the season to either go 9-9 or 10-8. People are jumping off of buildings to make this team seem like some evil, terrible piece of **** not worthy of wearing the cardinal and gold and it's pathetic.
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What? We went 12-6 in conference that year
 
cyclones500 said:
Brass tacks assessment. Path of least resistance to make the field, pretty much safe from "First Four":
at Kansas L
at Texas W
Oklahoma W
at Kansas State L
TCU W
at Texas Tech L
Baylor W
Oklahoma State W
at West Virginia L

18-12 (10-8)

If that occurs, Big 12 tournament performance is unlikely to matter, since we’re probably at 5/6 seeding with that record, with splits vs. TCU and Tech, sweeps over OU, OSU, UT. Could gain insurance with quarterfinal win, if it’s needed, but it wouldn’t move the needle much.

Many of us didn’t imagine we’d be having bubble discussions this season, but this is the hand we’re dealt.
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I agree with your assessment. We need to go out and win the winnable games from here on out. Still no easy task, but I don't think it's beyond our capabilities.
 
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@ Kansas - L
@ Texas - W
OU - W
@ K State - L
TCU - W
@ Tech - W
Baylor - L
OK State - W
@ WVU - L

That's my rough somewhat optimistic estimate for the rest of the year. Toughest win would be @ Tech, but even if that doesn't happen I still think Baylor or @ K State are possible. Baylor keeps winning, yeah, but we were 1 possession away from beating them in Waco. Hilton hasn't been as unbeatable as years past, but I don't understand why people are saying that one is a sure loss.
 
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Cyclonepride said:
I agree with your assessment. We need to go out and win the winnable games from here on out. Still no easy task, but I don't think it's beyond our capabilities.
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Lets just get through the Kansas game and then regroup for the stretch run. After this weekend we should be tied for 4th with K-State at 5-5 at the absolute worst. Tech might be 5-5 by then also if they can avoid a bad loss this week. I think as long as stay ahead of those teams and TCU we will still be in decent shape.

Tech and K-State have brutal schedules coming up where they can either get a huge win or lose 3 games in a row. Oklahoma State may be a factor as well but we already have the leg up on them winning on the road.

If we arent able to get a signature win I think its imperative we stay ahead of K-State and Tech in the standings because both of them have the West Virginia wins. I think we finish ahead of TCU, Oklahoma and Texas wont be factors.
 
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Small rant...

I'm super annoyed to this day the field of 68 is neither fully...

"true #17 seeds, so you clear out the #11 to #13 range for four more good teams that will pose more competition during the first Friday/Saturday games, and put a little more emphasis on a top three seed in the region so you can assure yourself a weak team with an automatic bid to start"

"includes the last eight bubble teams in play-in games, giving a small bias towards conference champions of even the crappy MEAC and Southland stuff towards the bottom, so the four play-in games are between teams with a pulse who are good and literally playing for their life"

Having two of each just... annoys me. One or the other. It makes the bracket ugly and makes it arbitrary and capricious where you put it. I like symmetry.

Having a 16-17 game makes sense to me.

Having the last eight play for a 12 or 13 makes sense to me.

Having those go on simultaneously... is infuriating.

It would make it far more clear who made the tournament if you do it this way. With the former, 68 teams made it. With the latter, 64 teams made it, though the last four in/out had to prove it on the court against a peer to remove some of the last NCAA selection ambiguities. Four teams have a nice "PIG" participation trophy instead of the NIT to play through. But what the heck is it now? 64? 66? 68? UGH!!! THIS DRIVES ME CRAZY LIKE DEONTE!
 
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Sigmapolis said:
Small rant...

I'm super annoyed to this day the field of 68 is neither fully...

"true #17 seeds, so you clear out the #11 to #13 range for four more good teams that will pose more competition during the first Friday/Saturday games, and put a little more emphasis on a top three seed in the region so you can assure yourself a weak team with an automatic bid to start"

"includes the last eight bubble teams in play-in games, giving a small bias towards conference champions of even the crappy MEAC and Southland stuff towards the bottom, so the four play-in games are between teams with a pulse who are good and literally playing for their life"

Having two of each just... annoys me. One or the other. It makes the bracket ugly and makes it arbitrary and capricious where you put it. I like symmetry.

Having a 16-17 game makes sense to me.

Having the last eight play for a 12 or 13 makes sense to me.

Having those go on simultaneously... is infuriating.

It would make it far more clear who made the tournament if you do it this way. With the former, 68 teams made it. With the latter, 64 teams made it, though the last four in/out had to prove it on the court against a peer to remove some of the last NCAA selection ambiguities. Four teams have a nice "PIG" participation trophy instead of the NIT to play through. But what the heck is it now? 64? 66? 68? UGH!!! THIS DRIVES ME CRAZY LIKE DEONTE!
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They need to go back to 64. As a basketball fan in general it drives me nuts when they matchup two awful #16 seeds in the play-in games. The thing is, some of these small programs have never won a game in the tourney, or even made it for that matter. I would much rather see a team from the SWAC get their one shot at glory against Kentucky or whoever than watch a couple 17-14 teams battle it out to be a 12 seed.

Some of these smaller schools its a once in a lifetime opportunity for them and the school, its a disservice to them to have them play each other when they get in.
 
jereseib said:
They need to go back to 64. As a basketball fan in general it drives me nuts when they matchup two awful #16 seeds in the play-in games. The thing is, some of these small programs have never won a game in the tourney, or even made it for that matter. I would much rather see a team from the SWAC get their one shot at glory against Kentucky or whoever than watch a couple 17-14 teams battle it out to be a 12 seed.

Some of these smaller schools its a once in a lifetime opportunity for them and the school, its a disservice to them to have them play each other when they get in.
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Sounds like you are more of a supporter of taking the last eight teams in, flying them to Dayton, and having them play at 7 and 9 eastern on Tuesday and Wednesday. Rather than let the NCAA decide with the ambiguous teams, let them prove it on the court with one last shot against each other to make it to the dance. I would watch the heck out of that with some good-but-flawed P5 teams and some very good mid-majors against each other.

Heck, you could save the four #1 seeds in the NIT for the losers if you wanted to, though I am unsure of the timing of the NIT if something like that would work.

However, yes, forcing two awful #16 caliber teams play each other is not the best viewing experience, save for freeing space up at the bubble for much better teams. Give them a little extra time and focus to go to slay a Kansas, Kentucky, Duke, or UNC dragon.
 
jereseib said:
They need to go back to 64. As a basketball fan in general it drives me nuts when they matchup two awful #16 seeds in the play-in games. The thing is, some of these small programs have never won a game in the tourney, or even made it for that matter. I would much rather see a team from the SWAC get their one shot at glory against Kentucky or whoever than watch a couple 17-14 teams battle it out to be a 12 seed.

Some of these smaller schools its a once in a lifetime opportunity for them and the school, its a disservice to them to have them play each other when they get in.
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I just pray they don't expand to 96 like they have mentioned. It probably will happen someday cause everything is about $$.
 
Having 68 teams makes it seem like there's even less separation between the NIT teams and the NCAA.
 
Looking at the back half our our schedule, there certainly is the opportunity to get hot.

Looking at the schedule, after Between Kansas and WVU I doubt there is a game we are more than a 3 point underdog in. Team full of desperate seniors, I could see us rattling off 7 out of the last 9.
 
Clonefan32 said:
Looking at the back half our our schedule, there certainly is the opportunity to get hot.

Looking at the schedule, after Between Kansas and WVU I doubt there is a game we are more than a 3 point underdog in. Team full of desperate seniors, I could see us rattling off 7 out of the last 9.
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I hope you are right.

If we finish at 20-10 as you just put down, we will be super safe for the tournament.

Yet, as the Spartans said, "If."
 
we should just play underclassmen the rest of the year. our season is over. they can get experience. lol.
 
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