Will we make the ncaa tournament (PIG doesn't count)
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Probably. A lot would just depend on who the nine wins came against. Let's say that ISU finishes fourth or fifth in Big 12 play but doesn't beat any of the top third of the conference (presumably KU, Baylor and WVU but who knows?) That means that they'll be 9-3 against basically the bottom half of the Big 12 with a few losses that would be classified at best as bad losses, potentially disastrous if they have a clunker at home against a really bad opponent. There's going to need to be a signature win or two somewhere in the conference schedule.
Big 12 Standings
1. Kansas (15 - 3) Defeated West Virginia based on draw.
2. West Virginia (15 - 3) Lost to Kansas based on draw.
3. Baylor (14 - 4)
4. Oklahoma State (8 - 10) Defeated Iowa State based on record against #3 teams.
5. Iowa State (8 - 10) Lost to Oklahoma State based on record against #3 teams.
6. Texas Tech (7 - 11)
7. Oklahoma (6 - 12) Defeated Texas and Kansas State based on draw.
8. Texas (6 - 12) Defeated Kansas State and lost to Oklahoma based on draw.
9. Kansas State (6 - 12) Lost to Oklahoma and Texas based on draw.
10. TCU (5 - 13)
Everybody in the middle beats each other up. Who goes to the tournament in this scenario?
Big 12 bracket generator:
http://bball.notnothing.net/big12.php?sport=mbb
1. Kansas (15 - 3) Defeated West Virginia based on draw.
2. West Virginia (15 - 3) Lost to Kansas based on draw.
3. Baylor (14 - 4)
4. Oklahoma State (8 - 10) Defeated Iowa State based on record against #3 teams.
5. Iowa State (8 - 10) Lost to Oklahoma State based on record against #3 teams.
6. Texas Tech (7 - 11)
7. Oklahoma (6 - 12) Defeated Texas and Kansas State based on draw.
8. Texas (6 - 12) Defeated Kansas State and lost to Oklahoma based on draw.
9. Kansas State (6 - 12) Lost to Oklahoma and Texas based on draw.
10. TCU (5 - 13)
Everybody in the middle beats each other up. Who goes to the tournament in this scenario?
Big 12 bracket generator:
http://bball.notnothing.net/big12.php?sport=mbb
I don't think we go worse than 9-9, and any 9-9 team in the B12 is making the tourney this year. the B12 has been a surprise and is again one of the top conferences in basketball if not the top conference. Even if we go 0-6 vs KU, WVU and BU, 2-2 against OU and OSU and 7-1 against the rest we have some decent road wins there. That will be enough to keep our RPI high enough by the end of the season. Would be nice if Iowa isn't ******* the rest of the season so that loss doesn't look so bad. the Cincy loss isn't going to be bad and the Gonzaga loss obviously won't be bad. Would obviously be nice to win at Vandy, because that is another quality road win. All said and done we will be okay. Just won't be as competitive with the top of the conference as in years past.
I do believe this team will be tough in the B12 and NCAA tourneys though. Guard play is huge in those type of games. Not saying they win the B12 even though I joked about that before, but we will see.
I do believe this team will be tough in the B12 and NCAA tourneys though. Guard play is huge in those type of games. Not saying they win the B12 even though I joked about that before, but we will see.
At that point we're probably the #1 RPI conference because KU, WVU, and Baylor would probably all be in the top 10 so the top 5 are getting in.
That looks like a 3-bid league to me. But that's with only partial information.
Without seeing your game-by-game results, based on OSU/ISU tiebreaker, OSU has at least one win vs. Baylor, so that could get Cowboys in ... it appears KU & WVa split, not sure where other 2 losses were (it likely involves BU).
At 8-10 with that scenario, Iowa State at worst has sweeps over teams 7-10, and no good wins. That's NIT material. If there are some splits with lower half and two wins over teams in top 3, maybe there's NCAA bid.
In the poll, I voted Yes. Iowa State would be in if Selection Sunday was today ... I realize the poll is more about outlook than "snapshot," but I think ISU at least can maintain its profile.
I voted no with a loss at Vandy and going 9-9 in the conference. We just have no good wins and I don't see us beating the top 3 in the conference so we won't have any good wins in conference play either.
Conference Losses:
Kansas (2)
Baylor (2)
WVU (2)
@ OSU
@KSU
@TTU
Conference Losses:
Kansas (2)
Baylor (2)
WVU (2)
@ OSU
@KSU
@TTU
Beat OSU, KSU and Tech at home and wins at TCU, Oklahoma and Texas will get our RPI just fine
If selection Sunday was today, we wouldn't even be in the conversation to the selection committee.
Our rpi is 117 right now. How on earth do you think we would be in today?
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So far, having lots of confidence in ISU's ability to just go into a game and win based on overall records hasn't worked out too great.
Should be an option for waiting until after tomorrow's game.
I hold RPI at arm's length right now, although it's beginning to take shape.
I respect your view that ISU would be Way Out at this point, while I see it as about 9-seed. Pre-January, 25-30 teams look safely at-large, then it becomes a large cluster of teams with uncertain resumes.
I voted yes because whenever the sky is falling posters are in full force on CF, it's never anywhere close to as bad as they seem to believe.
We could be in at 8-10 or out at 9-9. There are scenarios for both. Let's just go 9-9 (at least) and the scenarios are very slim on the bad side.
