Will Breece be traded?

[MeowingCows]

I understand the Chiefs and why they and most teams with elite QBs don't want to pay much for RB's.

Most teams trying to contend right now have top-tier RBs -- such as PHI, IND, LAR, (SF would be again if they had anybody else at all who wasn't injured), NE was hoping to get that with Henderson (TBD), ...

But again, that's fine. I can understand saying the fit and cost doesn't make sense for KC. That doesn't make Hall a bad player, you implying it does makes your take terrible. He easily clears anyone on KC. That is still true regardless of KC not wanting to pay him.

 

[psycln11]

A bunch of guys running 1200-1500 rushing seasons on those teams weren't elite? Will KC reach that rushing total this entire season?

It's a shame Breece hasn't hit the 1K mark, but bad usage and coaching will do that. He broke 1500 rush+rec. in 2023. It's very obvious to anyone paying attention that the elite upside is there, but it's all wasted on the Jets.

Breece doesn't reach 1000 yds because the Jets suck so bad they abandon the run and are forced to pass the entire 2nd half of games.

 

[deadeyededric]

Breece doesn't reach 1000 yds because the Jets suck so bad they abandon the run and are forced to pass the entire 2nd half of games.

That's a lame ass excuse. You need to average about 70ypg to hit 1k. There are plenty of backs on piss poor teams that still putting up good numbers. Especially when they are that offenses #1 option. This is still the NFL. They arent so bad good backs couldn't put up 1000 yds.

 

[deadeyededric]

Most teams trying to contend right now have top-tier RBs -- such as PHI, IND, LAR, (SF would be again if they had anybody else at all who wasn't injured), NE was hoping to get that with Henderson (TBD), ...

But again, that's fine. I can understand saying the fit and cost doesn't make sense for KC. That doesn't make Hall a bad player, you implying it does makes your take terrible. He easily clears anyone on KC. That is still true regardless of KC not wanting to pay him.

Who the **** said he was a bad player? He's not a top 10 back though. Probably in the 10-20 range. Ive only been trying to make the case for the chiefs. What the market says someone is worth and whether it makes sense for certain teams are 2 different things.

 

[NATEizKING]

I don't know he's a better pass catcher than Kareem Hunt. Thats one of the things he's really good at. Career wise they average about the same ypc and have caught pretty close to the same amount of balls per year.

I think what everyone is saying but you can't grasp, is that the team you are on matters. Look at DM career on Lions vs. Bears. And since you won't look at it, here it is, but remember he also has a star next to him in Gibbs that KC can't come close to:

 

[deadeyededric]

I think what everyone is saying but you can't grasp, is that the team you are on matters. Look at DM career on Lions vs. Bears. And since you won't look at it, here it is, but remember he also has a star next to him in Gibbs that KC can't come close to: View attachment 160518

Is this about stats or winning super bowls and being smart in terms of the salary cap?

 

[NATEizKING]

Is this about stats or winning super bowls and being smart in terms of the salary cap?

It's a 3rd vs. 4th round for a KC team with SB ambitions and an RB room that would see Breece day 1 starter and receiving threat.

 

[isufbcurt]

Compare Breece and Hunt all you want, but the fact that Breece isn't a woman beater puts him head and shoulders above Hunt.

 

[MeowingCows]

Who the **** said he was a bad player? He's not a top 10 back though. Probably in the 10-20 range. Ive only been trying to make the case for the chiefs. What the market says someone is worth and whether it makes sense for certain teams are 2 different things.

You have. You've consistently said he's a bad player, when every stat you've mentioned so far, he's better at. When you're saying he isn't better than the KC players who aren't even in the top-30 statistically this season, you're saying he'a bad. You're saying he's "not worth a third round pick" repeatedly -- that's saying he's a bad player. You're saying that. These are bad takes -- don't have bad takes.

That 70ypg for 1k season? He's doing that this season with literally nobody else on the team for an opposing defense to try to stop. No one. And then he adds another massive chunk of receiving on top of that. He's objectively a better player and comfortably a top ten back for an org to bring in (assuming a long term deal, which is the hangup for KC of course).

 

[3TrueFans]

Compare Breece and Hunt all you want, but the fact that Breece isn't a woman beater puts him head and shoulders above Hunt.

That’s why he can’t be a Chief.

 

[cydsho]

Compare Breece and Hunt all you want, but the fact that Breece isn't a woman beater puts him head and shoulders above Hunt.

Ding ding ding. And I've been a Chiefs fan for 40 years. I thought he would be a generational RB for the Chiefs but was glad to see him go and I took away the Hunt jersey I got for my son.

 

[Cy Hard]

So That Breece guy is pretty good huh. He had 125 of the Jets 169 yards of total offense and their only touchdown.

 

[cydsho]

Breece Hall is not as good as a young Kareem Hunt was ffs. Look at Hunts first 20 games. His rookie year he basically had 1400 yds and 500 yds receiving. His 2nd year he had 875rushing and 400 receiving yards in 11 games.

You must have a memory of a goldfish. Breece was having an incredible rookie year and the knee injury took him out. Since he's been a very good back on a team that can't even sniff the playoffs.
Hunt had a very good first 2 years on a team that was breaking all kinds of offensive records.
Did Breece kick your dog or something?

 

[cloneclone]

I'm glad Breece didn't go to the Chiefs because I am tired of them. But it's insane they wouldn't go up from a 4th to a 3rd for him. Even if he's a half year rental, he's a difference maker, and could be a key piece for a super bowl run. If the future of your team rests on a 3rd round pick, I've got some bad news about your team.

 

[1SEIACLONE]

I'm saying any team would be foolish to pay top$$ for a running back unless you're one of maybe 3-4 in the game.

But they would not be paying him for next year, just the remaining part of his original contract and even then it would be only for the remainder of this season. If he had came in and been a difference maker, you worry about it at the end of the season.
It's all water in the bridge now, but its a major mistake by the chiefs not to give up a 3rd round pick to upgrade an area of need.

 

[ghyland7]

You must have a memory of a goldfish. Breece was having an incredible rookie year and the knee injury took him out. Since he's been a very good back on a team that can't even sniff the playoffs.
Hunt had a very good first 2 years on a team that was breaking all kinds of offensive records.
Did Breece kick your dog or something?

This dude has been trying to diminish the success of ISU pro players from the last few years while he prays to his altar of Saint Mahomes.

It’s not worth arguing.

 

[NorthCyd]

This dude has been trying to diminish the success of ISU pro players from the last few years while he prays to his altar of Saint Mahomes.

It’s not worth arguing.

I dont know why anyone bothers trying. It's pointless.

 

[1SEIACLONE]

Here is what the Athletic had to say about the what if of Hall going to the Chiefs.

2. Breece Hall to the Kansas City Chiefs: This would have been fun just to see the wider NFL audience lose its mind. This would have made things borderline unfair for the rest of the league, especially now that Patrick Mahomes has all of his options back in the passing game. For the Jets, this is similar to Hendrickson for the Bengals. Drive up the price all the way to the last minute, no problem, but then take the best offer on the table and add it to the bag of draft picks.

Trey Hendrickson to Lions and other deals we would’ve liked to see at NFL trade deadline

Trey Hendrickson on the Lions would've been great for Detroit and a smart move for Cincinnati, which is unlikely to retain him.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Cloned4Life]

Who the **** said he was a bad player? He's not a top 10 back though. Probably in the 10-20 range. Ive only been trying to make the case for the chiefs. What the market says someone is worth and whether it makes sense for certain teams are 2 different things.

Breece Hall is one of the best RBs in football. Very likely top 10. And yes, him not having a 1,000 yard season is 100% because he is on the Jets. 100%.

He is almost a mirror clone of Jonathan Taylor, and actually has every bit the ceiling. Coincidentally, both of these athletic freaks had one of the highest combine aggregate scores of all time - scoring in the 99th percentile. I believe as of a few years ago there are only six running backs in the last 25 years that have achieved a score like this. Unfortunately for Breece, the NFL is highly reliant on where you go, who is coaching you, who is the GM, what is the style of play, etc. Jets are just a loser organization.

The college you went to matters a lot too. Bruce was a better college running back then Bijan Robinson. Which is why the coaches voted Breece ahead of Robinson in the first team running back votes and offensive player of the year awards. Breece was also a better pass catcher in college. Yet, in the year after Breece's draft, Robinson goes in the top 10 and goes to Atlanta, where he is heralded as a stud freak. Breece is bigger, faster, and quicker than Robinson.

PS. David Montgomery is also a top 20 - 25 running back in the NFL.

 

[deadeyededric]

Breece Hall is one of the best RBs in football. Very likely top 10. And yes, him not having a 1,000 yard season is 100% because he is on the Jets. 100%.

He is almost a mirror clone of Jonathan Taylor, and actually has every bit the ceiling. Coincidentally, both of these athletic freaks had one of the highest combine aggregate scores of all time - scoring in the 99th percentile. I believe as of a few years ago there are only six running backs in the last 25 years that have achieved a score like this. Unfortunately for Breece, the NFL is highly reliant on where you go, who is coaching you, who is the GM, what is the style of play, etc. Jets are just a loser organization.

The college you went to matters a lot too. Bruce was a better college running back then Bijan Robinson. Which is why the coaches voted Breece ahead of Robinson in the first team running back votes and offensive player of the year awards. Breece was also a better pass catcher in college. Yet, in the year after Breece's draft, Robinson goes in the top 10 and goes to Atlanta, where he is heralded as a stud freak. Breece is bigger, faster, and quicker than Robinson.

PS. David Montgomery is also a top 20 - 25 running back in the NFL.

You're high. He was 18th in the league in rushing last year. There were plenty of RB's on losing team last year that had better numbers than him. It doesn't ******* matter where you went to college. What kind of lame as excuse us that. He's a middle of the league back. A starter. Wishful thinking don't change facts and evidence. Jeff George probably had a better combo than anyone ever. Thanks for the most ridiculous take I've seen in a few months. Aaron Jones went to UTEP and had a better season than him. Chubba Hubbard went to Oklahoma State. DM is graded 40th out of 47 half backs this year right now too.