Where Will ISU End Up if the Big 12 Implodes?

[cymonw1980]

I look at it like this, its an opportunity for a redo for their conference. They fired their comish last year, they have the only network fully owned by the league without a partner such as Fox or Espn. Maybe they are thinking if we can pull this off, we have basically all the football from the Missouri River to the Pacific, not counting Nebraska of course.

Rebadge the league, gives them teams in that 11:00 window instead of forcing schools on the West Coast to start a game at 9:00 local time, and try to move up from number 5 P5 league to maybe number 2 or 3.

I just don’t see that adding to the pac 12 conference helps them. I do hope I am wrong… but I am trying to understand how adding 2-4 schools changes the story for them. If there is no brand name to come with the others I just think it is a hard sell.

if I am the pac 12 I leverage my geographic isolation to my advantage, stay at 12, with the brands I have, region I represent, I keep my place at the table. As revenues start to grow I will distribute more per team with 12 than if I add a group with limited brand value. This is not a knock on ISU…. ISU may be more attentive than many other teams currently in power conferences. But there is not an option to reset from square one.

my hope is that the ACC convinces ND to join and we beat UConn/wvu for the final spot there.

 

[HoopsTournament]

I guess I don't see it that way. Think NFL, a little better than .500 and you make the playoffs. Competitive balance that swings back and forth amongst the elite markets. Nobody will need to go 12-1 anymore.

14 out of 32 teams make the playoffs. College football won’t have that high of a percentage.

 

[MIClone]

Gene Smith?!? How about Jamie's relationship with Barry Alvarez, the Big 10's Special Advisor for Football?
Barry Alvarez Named Big Ten Conference Special Advisor for Football - Big Ten Conference

 

[cymonw1980]

THIS! The idea that the B1G would wait until the equivalent of UT and OU are looking for a new home would be completely idiotic! That may never happen again ever.

but why add? If I am the big 10 I dont need to add anyone. I can stay at 14. Going to 16 to be at 16 makes no sense. Of the available teams not sure how any b10 additions would be seen as a “keeping up” if the sec adds OU and Tex. They would be better to hold off and see who they could get later…. Hope I am wrong. But just being honest.

 

[20eyes]

"The Athletic is reporting that the AAC is expected to "act as an aggressor" and attempt to pick up remaining Big 12 teams, "perhaps as a group."
-Chip Patterson

The day ISU joins the AAC is my last day as an ISU fan...and I'm in the majority of ISU fans on that.

 

[MIClone]

Gene Smith?!? How about Jamie's relationship with Barry Alvarez, the Big 10's Special Advisor for Football?
Barry Alvarez Named Big Ten Conference Special Advisor for Football - Big Ten Conference

[For those that don't know, Jamie was the assistant AD under Alvarez at Wisconsin, before coming to ISU]

 

[MIClone]

The day ISU joins the AAC is my last day as an ISU fan...and I'm in the majority of ISU fans on that.

They won't and I don't want them to. I'm just pointing out that there are a lot of options out there. The Big 12 remained a very strong conference with only 10 teams after NU, A&M, UM and CU left, despite predications to the contrary, and ISU was an important part of that.

 

[t-noah]

CA state schools (UCLA, Cal in the Pac 12) can not currently travel to TX for sports. Unless TX changes their laws I don’t see that changing.

Didn't know that. That's a ringer! California Bans University Travel To 8 States, Including Texas (swimswam.com)

 

[SEIOWA CLONE]

but why add? If I am the big 10 I dont need to add anyone. I can stay at 14. Going to 16 to be at 16 makes no sense. Of the available teams not sure how any b10 additions would be seen as a “keeping up” if the sec adds OU and Tex. They would be better to hold off and see who they could get later…. Hope I am wrong. But just being honest.

They may indeed do just what you are saying, but doing so does not guarantee that name brand schools will be there down the road, and it also gives the impression that they are giving up the mantle of the best football conference to the SEC. May mean nothing, or it may mean a lot.

 

[awd4cy]

The day ISU joins the AAC is my last day as an ISU fan...and I'm in the majority of ISU fans on that.

Yep, I will totally quit watching college athletics. I cant stand to watch Iowa State go through a G5 demotion after watching us grow in the Big 12 and nationally.

 

[20eyes]

They won't and I don't want them to. I'm just pointing out that there are a lot of options out there. The Big 12 remained a very strong conference with only 10 teams after NU, A&M, UM and CU left, despite predications to the contrary, and ISU was an important part of that.

I get it, but there really aren't many options. Some people seem to think we will just keep going but in a lesser league...that's not how it will work. Without P4 status, the whole thing craters. I can't stress this enough - none of us has ever been a fan of a Cyclones team that wasn't in a power league. After about two weeks in an AAC the fans will all be ready to bag it and find a different way to spend their Saturday.

 

[MIClone]

Yep, I will totally quit watching college athletics. I cant stand to watch Iowa State go through a G5 demotion after watching us grow in the Big 12 and nationally.

I don't want ISU to go to the ACC, but I'd prefer that over the SEC. I'd rather seen the B1G or Pac 12 than either of those.

 

[Turn2]

Didn't know that. That's a ringer! California Bans University Travel To 8 States, Including Texas (swimswam.com)

That ban list originally included Kansas, Mississippi, North Carolina and Tennessee. But this week, California’s attorney general announced that four more states would join the list: Alabama, Kentucky, South Dakota and Texas.

If that’s ever updated…Iowa is okay, for now.

 

[OnlyCyclones]

The day ISU joins the AAC is my last day as an ISU fan...and I'm in the majority of ISU fans on that.

Lame.

 

[deadeyededric]

I don't want ISU to go to the ACC, but I'd prefer that over the SEC. I'd rather seen the B1G or Pac 12 than either of those.

I'd rather be in the SEC. Our recruiting would be off the charts compared to now. Probably be more competitive with the middle and bottom of the conference than you think.

 

[t-noah]

If that’s ever updated Iowa makes the list.

Really? I didn't think Iowa was that backward or conservative, but more moderate. Could be wrong. Things change I guess.

Regardless, if PAC wants to do something with the Big 12 orphans, they might have to change their stance on some of these issues. Probably if it involves money they will.

 

[Turn2]

Really? I didn't think Iowa was that backward or conservative, but more moderate. Could be wrong. Things change I guess.

Regardless, if PAC wants to do something with the Big 12 orphans, they might have to change their stance on some of these issues. Probably if it involves money they will.

I rechecked and edited my post. But don’t hold your breath.

 

[20eyes]

Lame.

It's the truth for more fans than not. You didn't sign up for a G5 program, either.

 

[awd4cy]

Lame.

I mean, I think most everyone would still love Iowa State, but I think most of us couldn’t stomach being in the AAC and playing Tulsa, Tulane, ECU, etc every week does absolutely nothing for me.

 

[deadeyededric]

Add the arizona schools and Nebraska, maybe Louisville. This is all madness and speculation. I don’t see leagues getting blown up in next two years, maybe by 2025. We just won the fiesta bowl so I’m not worried about us

I'd be down for that. That league would have some legitimacy.