What will Iowa state be ranked?

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Yep, and on that note, what happened to the ACC? This was THE power conference in basketball for decades along with the Big East before the Big East dissolved even up until about 5 years ago or so then it's all kind of fallen apart since then. They're almost as bad as ACC football is now, didn't see that coming.
Everyone started paying their players similar salaries to what they've been getting in the ACC for 30 years.
 

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You thought the ACC was terrible in football just check out basketball.

It still blows my mind that the ACC has become so bad. up until my early 30's, the B1G and the ACC were the cream of the crop and it wasn't even close.
 

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The next two games are big. Our conference schedule is top-heavy this year. We should be favored heavily in both games, but losing to KU under any circumstances is never a big surprise, and West Virginia is a tough road game. If we manage to get through that, then you're 6-0 in league play and of the remaining 14 games, there's only maybe three I look at and say "That's probably going to be a loss" (at Arizona, at KU, at Houston).

I can actually see us being dogs again at WVU.
 

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Yep, and on that note, what happened to the ACC? This was THE power conference in basketball for decades along with the Big East before the Big East dissolved even up until about 5 years ago or so then it's all kind of fallen apart since then. They're almost as bad as ACC football is now, didn't see that coming.
It’s starts with the coaches who have retired in the last 5 years

Coach k
Roy williams
Boeheim
Tony Bennett
ND head coach

I am sure I am missing one or two.
 

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Yep, and on that note, what happened to the ACC? This was THE power conference in basketball for decades along with the Big East before the Big East dissolved even up until about 5 years ago or so then it's all kind of fallen apart since then. They're almost as bad as ACC football is now, didn't see that coming.
Quite a few legendary coaches have retired in the last 5 years.
 

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Everyone started paying their players similar salaries to what they've been getting in the ACC for 30 years.

The ACC's decline started way before NIL/pay for play. It's been a 10 year slide.
 

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I can actually see us being dogs again at WVU.
On the ESPN "Matchup Predictor" we are favored at 63.6% vs. KU and 69.0% at WVU. I don't know how often those line up with gambling metrics, not a gambler!

WVU has some good players but they are on the smaller side and are not very deep without DeVries (guessing he won't play but who knows).
 

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Duke will pass us
This pollster from Nevada has us #2 and Duke #8, so a nice 6 point cushion to start from

And last week, more voters (11) had Alabama ahead of Duke than voters (8) who had Duke ahead of ISU
 
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On the ESPN "Matchup Predictor" we are favored at 63.6% vs. KU and 69.0% at WVU. I don't know how often those line up with gambling metrics, not a gambler!

Gambling is a different deal.
 

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This pollster from Nevada has us #2 and Duke #8, so a nice 6 point cushion to start from

I don't understand how a team gets absolutely piss stomped by 30 and a voter only drops them 3 spots. Especially since their resume isn't anything special.
 

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Gambling is a different deal.
Sure but what sports books / "Vegas" expects is not the definitive answer to "who's favored?", nor do they set those lines as a predictor of the outcome of the game, they are set to try to draw lots of bets.
 
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Sure but what sports books / "Vegas" expects is not the definitive answer to "who's favored?", nor do they set those lines as a predictor of the outcome of the game, they are set to try to draw lots of bets.

Correct.
 
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We are 2, Kansas is 9.

Duke and Florida each got a #1 vote. We got none.

 

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Quite a few legendary coaches have retired in the last 5 years.
That's true and Pitino left the conference but Syracuse was already trending to mediocre before Boeheim retired for one and pretty much ever since moving to the ACC.
 
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