What is our offense

[isufbcurt]

We threw 40 passes in the first half!!!!! We shouldn't even be throwing 40 passes in an entire game. We never gave the running game a chance even though we have a RB who has been on fire the prior 2 games. Oh and by the way when we did give the ball to Hall positive plays happened.

I thought the Baylor offensive game plan was bad but the Okie State offensive game plan was one of the worst I've ever seen. Played right into their hands.

A hot RB against one of the WORST run defenses in the country and we threw 62 f-ing passes.

I still pissed about this game plan. When we started the game going 3 and out, throwing 3 straight passes I got a bad feeling.

There are times to get cute and there are times to just take care of business and Manning needs to figure it out because he tries to be cute way to often.

 

[ankenycyclone]

We threw 40 passes in the first half!!!!! We shouldn't even be throwing 40 passes in an entire game. We never gave the running game a chance even though we have a RB who has been on fire the prior 2 games. Oh and by the way when we did give the ball to Hall positive plays happened.

I thought the Baylor offensive game plan was bad but the Okie State offensive game plan was one of the worst I've ever seen. Played right into their hands.

A hot RB against one of the WORST run defenses in the country and we threw 62 f-ing passes.

I still pissed about this game plan. When we started the game going 3 and out, throwing 3 straight passes I got a bad feeling.

There are times to get cute and there are times to just take care of business and Manning needs to figure it out because he tries to be cute way to often.

Completely agree-run the damn ball. Trying to be way to slick with the passing game.

 

[AuH2O]

Wow, those stupid coaches spent countless hours watching film and preparing for this game. All they had to do was ask some of you because you have the answers. These guys suck. They don’t listen to the fans. They waste time on a teams tendencies. Bring back Rhodes. I am tired of a coaching staff taking us to Bowl games every year. Making the season longer. I long for the good old days.

It isn't rocket science. It was a one possession game or tied the entire second half. The coaches, who, you know actually control what plays are called, keep saying they wanted a balanced attack, as if it was out of their control. They didn't have a bunch of second half series where they got off schedule in terms of down and distance, so the situations did not dictate a need to pass almost every down.

 

[AuH2O]

We threw 40 passes in the first half!!!!! We shouldn't even be throwing 40 passes in an entire game. We never gave the running game a chance even though we have a RB who has been on fire the prior 2 games. Oh and by the way when we did give the ball to Hall positive plays happened.

I thought the Baylor offensive game plan was bad but the Okie State offensive game plan was one of the worst I've ever seen. Played right into their hands.

A hot RB against one of the WORST run defenses in the country and we threw 62 f-ing passes.

I still pissed about this game plan. When we started the game going 3 and out, throwing 3 straight passes I got a bad feeling.

There are times to get cute and there are times to just take care of business and Manning needs to figure it out because he tries to be cute way to often.

The bolded is most important. Any coach that tells gives you the old, we are going to play our game and says they don't develop a gameplan around the other teams' weakness is either lying or isn't going to be coaching long. I mean, Army isn't going to air it out 40 times to attack serious DB deficiencies, but most teams are going to hammer at the weakness in a D.

There's probably a bit of stubbornness or Manning outsmarting himself, but I do think OSU figured out a pre-snap look that could get ISU to check to a type of play they could counter. For example, it seemed like ISU would check, and if the pass play had deeper, longer developing routes, OSU brought an extra guy on the blitz and they had LBs getting depth. Or ISU would check into a play with the primary option being a slant and they were playing press and/or the LBs were jumping routes. It was just too often they had the ideal coverage on plays changed at the LOS to be random when they were throwing that many different looks at ISU. At the very least, they seemed to do a good job disguising coverages - CB showing soft man, then a LB jumping the slant or drag; Safeties showing in the box, then at the snap bailing to provide over the top help to a CB in a man look.

Whatever it was, OSUs defense had Purdy confused and uncomfortable. Even if you can't solve what's confusing him, letting your OL be physical and get the Defense on their heels by with a heavy dose of Hall would've done wonders.

 

[isufbcurt]

The bolded is most important. Any coach that tells gives you the old, we are going to play our game and says they don't develop a gameplan around the other teams' weakness is either lying or isn't going to be coaching long. I mean, Army isn't going to air it out 40 times to attack serious DB deficiencies, but most teams are going to hammer at the weakness in a D.

There's probably a bit of stubbornness or Manning outsmarting himself, but I do think OSU figured out a pre-snap look that could get ISU to check to a type of play they could counter. For example, it seemed like ISU would check, and if the pass play had deeper, longer developing routes, OSU brought an extra guy on the blitz and they had LBs getting depth. Or ISU would check into a play with the primary option being a slant and they were playing press and/or the LBs were jumping routes. It was just too often they had the ideal coverage on plays changed at the LOS to be random when they were throwing that many different looks at ISU. At the very least, they seemed to do a good job disguising coverages - CB showing soft man, then a LB jumping the slant or drag; Safeties showing in the box, then at the snap bailing to provide over the top help to a CB in a man look.

Whatever it was, OSUs defense had Purdy confused and uncomfortable. Even if you can't solve what's confusing him, letting your OL be physical and get the Defense on their heels by with a heavy dose of Hall would've done wonders.

Sometimes you have to trust that even though the defense is expecting something your guys are going to get it done. There is nothing more deflating to a defense than knowing the other team is going to run it and you still get your ass kicked.

Trust me I was on some of those defenses.

 

[CyGuy5]

Whatever it was, OSUs defense had Purdy confused and uncomfortable

Throwing the ball 60+ times and allowing the defense to sell out against the pass, while not allowing him to do one of the things he does best; all while feeling pressure all game will do that to you. Purdy didn’t play good, but I think a lot of blame has to go on Manning and the coaching staff for that performance

 

[BillBrasky4Cy]

We threw 40 passes in the first half!!!!! We shouldn't even be throwing 40 passes in an entire game. We never gave the running game a chance even though we have a RB who has been on fire the prior 2 games. Oh and by the way when we did give the ball to Hall positive plays happened.

I thought the Baylor offensive game plan was bad but the Okie State offensive game plan was one of the worst I've ever seen. Played right into their hands.

A hot RB against one of the WORST run defenses in the country and we threw 62 f-ing passes.

I still pissed about this game plan. When we started the game going 3 and out, throwing 3 straight passes I got a bad feeling.

There are times to get cute and there are times to just take care of business and Manning needs to figure it out because he tries to be cute way to often.

Couple the lack of run game with this staffs stubbornness to not let Purdy use his feet and we are fighting with one arm. I really don't get it and it was incredibly frustrating to watch. People can Sh!t on Purdy for having a tough day but damn this staff really put him in a position where he was destined to fail.

 

[heitclone]

I don't think Manning did Brock any favors from a playcalling standpoint but I've never seen Brock miss that many open receivers. Nearly ever pass he forced to Kolar over the middle, there was a guy open in the flat. Maybe they just weren't on the same page but BP was out of sync all day. It was compounded by Manning either assuming Brock would play through it and get things going (he's done that couple times this year for short stretches) or he didn't recognize how out of sorts the defense had Brock. Either way, he could have helped him out by running the ball a bit more, especially once we got it back to a one score/tie game. We played the whole 4th quarter like we were down 3 TDs.

 

[BillBrasky4Cy]

I don't think Manning did Brock any favors from a playcalling standpoint but I've never seen Brock miss that many open receivers. Nearly ever pass he forced to Kolar over the middle, there was a guy open in the flat. Maybe they just weren't on the same page but BP was out of sync all day. It was compounded by Manning either assuming Brock would play through it and get things going (he's done that couple times this year for short stretches) or he didn't recognize how out of sorts the defense had Brock. Either way, he could have helped him out by running the ball a bit more, especially once we got it back to a one score/tie game. We played the whole 4th quarter like we were down 3 TDs.

OSU's pressure had him rattled from the get go. It just never felt like Brock was comfortable and in turn didn't run through his progressions.

 

[Gunnerclone]

I don't think Manning did Brock any favors from a playcalling standpoint but I've never seen Brock miss that many open receivers. Nearly ever pass he forced to Kolar over the middle, there was a guy open in the flat. Maybe they just weren't on the same page but BP was out of sync all day. It was compounded by Manning either assuming Brock would play through it and get things going (he's done that couple times this year for short stretches) or he didn't recognize how out of sorts the defense had Brock. Either way, he could have helped him out by running the ball a bit more, especially once we got it back to a one score/tie game. We played the whole 4th quarter like we were down 3 TDs.

it seems like there was an emphasis on two things:

1)Brock not running and leaving bigger plays on the table (I don’t think it has anything to do with future health considerations)
2)Forcing the ball downfield

I don’t get either of them.

 

[intrepid27]

Wow we are top 10 in the country in yard per play ( even with the Okie St game) Really people!!! Starting to sound like Nebraska and Iowa fans.

https://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/stat/yards-per-play

 

[Clonefan32]

Couple the lack of run game with this staffs stubbornness to not let Purdy use his feet and we are fighting with one arm. I really don't get it and it was incredibly frustrating to watch. People can Sh!t on Purdy for having a tough day but damn this staff really put him in a position where he was destined to fail.

Couldn't agree more. I just can't imagine what thought goes into an outright refusal to try and run the ball.

I also agree Purdy was given pretty direct instructions not to run. It looked like UNI all over again. There were multiple plays where he could have walked for a first down and just wouldn't tuck it and go.

 

[derpyherky]

Dunno whats so hard about figuring out our offense, here is a summary:
Run - success
Throw - Success
Run - Success
Run-Success
Throw - Success
Throw - Fail
Throw - Fail
Throw - Fail
Throw - Fail
Throw - Fail
Throw - Fail
Throw - Fail
Run-Success
Throw - Success
Field Goal - Fail
Throw - Fail
Throw - Fail
Throw - Fail
Throw - Fail
Throw - Fail
Throw - Fail
Throw - Fail
Throw - Everyone beat their heads against the wall for abandoning the run.

 

[Gunnerclone]

Wow we are top 10 in the country in yard per play ( even with the Okie St game) Really people!!! Starting to sound like Nebraska and Iowa fans.

https://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/stat/yards-per-play

Im as all in for ISU as anyone and something was definitely wrong with the game plan or what became the game plan as the game progressed.

you’re right our offense has been good, so why did we go so far away from what has been working?

 

[Aclone]

Well then today our staff was completely lost and clueless.

Good point. Somehow the coaching staff was lost and clueless enough to make Brock miss a couple of wide open targets that should have been touchdowns, then toss a couple of picks late.

Otherwise, we win the game comfortably.

Good grief, after a loss some people on here turn into a bunch of boneheads. Brock was off a little bit. Get over it and move on—because he will.

 

[twojman]

Wow we are top 10 in the country in yard per play ( even with the Okie St game) Really people!!! Starting to sound like Nebraska and Iowa fans.

https://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/stat/yards-per-play

Now do points and wins...YPP is ok for a **** swinging contest but not what I care about most.

@isufbcurt I'd add that the UNI offenseive game plan was bad as well. ISU won but it should have been wrapped up in regulation with ease. The offensive game plan was terrible.

 

[isufbcurt]

Now do points and wins...YPP is ok for a **** swinging contest but not what I care about most.

@isufbcurt I'd add that the UNI offenseive game plan was bad as well. ISU won but it should have been wrapped up in regulation with ease. The offensive game plan was terrible.

I agree. UNI should have been a running game clinic and pound them into submission, while working on blocking schemes for the upcoming season.

 

[ArgentCy]

Wow we are top 10 in the country in yard per play ( even with the Okie St game) Really people!!! Starting to sound like Nebraska and Iowa fans.

https://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/stat/yards-per-play

Not many 5-3 teams around us. That is a problem.

 

[madguy30]

Wow we are top 10 in the country in yard per play ( even with the Okie St game) Really people!!! Starting to sound like Nebraska and Iowa fans.

https://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/stat/yards-per-play

What about very possible wins that are nullified by head scratching decisions?

I'd bet ISU is top ten there too.

 

[Gunnerclone]

I agree. UNI should have been a running game clinic and pound them into submission, while working on blocking schemes for the upcoming season.

Seems like Campbell is one of those coaches that likes to prove points at any cost, especially early in a season. As a former player would that get old with you pretty quickly?