Weeds Becoming Roundup Resistant

[rebecacy]

And this is an absolute fantasy. There will be no new miracle herbicide and there will most likely never will be. Glyphosate resistance was a freak. A mutation in algea found in a pond that Monsanto had polluted with glyphosate. The enzyme is positioned as a major player in 3 critical metabolic pathways. That is why it works so well. People and companies have been trying to find an enzyme that works as well as glyphosate for about 20 years now with zero success. Odds are we will never find anything that good again.

Nothing you have said here is true. I am now dumber from reading your post. You sir are a complete and total fool.

 

[WeedCyntist]

There is no magic bullet coming and we will be going back to the early 1990's as far as herbicide programs go or even earlier. At least in the 1990's we had the ALS chemistry to work with until we ran that into the ground. There are some new tools coming but they too will require management on a higher scale that what we have been use to. Oh the wonderful world of weeds.....that's what I call job security.

 

[rebecacy]

There is no magic bullet coming and we will be going back to the early 1990's as far as herbicide programs go or even earlier. At least in the 1990's we had the ALS chemistry to work with until we ran that into the ground. There are some new tools coming but they too will require management on a higher scale that what we have been use to. Oh the wonderful world of weeds.....that's what I call job security.

I have never seen a magic bullet in any biological system. Don't expect we ever will. But I also would not discount the work being done by some of the best plant molecular biology labs. IP needs to be protected so info is slow coming forward. The sky is not falling.

 

[Tre4ISU]

I have never seen a magic bullet in any biological system. Don't expect we ever will. But I also would not discount the work being done by some of the best plant molecular biology labs. IP needs to be protected so info is slow coming forward. The sky is not falling.

Monsanto nor any other company have anything in the works even close to roundup. Nothing. You have old technologies as far as modes of action. There hasn't been a new one for years.

 

[Tre4ISU]

You claim that the other side has no evidence, where is your evidence that not using chemicals will cause many people to starve?

One of the great lies is that the use of these chemicals is neccessary to help feed the world. There are millions of people, actually I think it may be a billion people that lack food in the world and we have been using chemicals for some time now. I don't think the corn grown here in Iowa is helping to feed the world. Maybe to help the corn industry come up with creative ways to get corn into products or to help feed animals that are being fed to US citizens. But you show me how the conventional agriculture practiced here in Iowa is helping feed the world?

While just simply growing "organic" food as defined by the USDA might not feed the world, agroecology is way that people could feed the world. The problem is that there would have to be a todal uphevel of the conventional system in the U.S.

Chemical companies have been feeding farmers lies for a long time now about the necessity of their products. Their products aren't necessary for farmers but what for the companies, farmers using their products and depending on their products is necessary.

Ive seen studies that show that by using certain techniques farmers can get the same or sometimes better yield from sustainable techniques as opposed to conventional farming. One of the studies was done by a professor at UNI and another study was partly done by a ISU professor.

Again, one of the problems is implenting a whole new way of doing agriculture.

What is your plan for controlling insects and seedling disease. I would assume it's not a chemical like we currently use correct? So what is it? Tillage? OK so in southwest Iowa we aggressively till therefor losing topsoil and reducing our soil profile and therefor yield. Not keeping up with population rise.

How about weeds in the row? We can cultivate between the row right? Any way you plan on doing it, you are decreasing yield potential. Not feeding the growing population.

I want to hear these practices of not using chemicals that will give us the same yields in a cost effective manner without completely driving cost through the roof.

 

[R1975P]

I tried to read some of the comments, but I can't read comments from people who have no clue what farming is all about. Sorry, there is not enough time to explain things you need to understand.

Go Cyclones.

 

[kingcy]

Roundup has changed the way we farm, for the better. It only takes a few dumbasses to mess up the weed spectrum. In Iowa 90% of farmers do it right, have something down, mix up chemestry, have resudual and change rates according to weed size. I know areas of the county were guys try to get by running a too low of rate of RU, that is where the resistance started. Monsanto was also giving out bad advise saying RU is all you need to spray corn post.

 

[Cy94]

This.

Goal #1: Maximize production.


If you don't like it, grow your own food.

Goal #2: Utilize sustainable systems to continue to feed future generations.

 

[rebecacy]

Goal #2: Utilize sustainable systems to continue to feed future generations.

Actually #2 is curb population growth drastically. The sustainability problem stems from overpopulation not agricultural practices.

 

[2020cy]

I tried to read some of the comments, but I can't read comments from people who have no clue what farming is all about. Sorry, there is not enough time to explain things you need to understand.

Go Cyclones.

They all are missing the main concern here. How is this going to affect the south endzone project.

 

[Hawkeye11en1]

Use that stuff that the Albaugh's make. Good stuff.

 

[CykoAGR]

I have never seen a magic bullet in any biological system. Don't expect we ever will. But I also would not discount the work being done by some of the best plant molecular biology labs. IP needs to be protected so info is slow coming forward. The sky is not falling.

Roundup was about as close to a silver bullet as we have seen in agriculture, but as you stated there is no true silver bullet. Mother natures creatures have one primal instinct and that is to survive and reproduce.

I do not discount the work of labs, at some point they may very well find another chemical that works very well on a wide spectrum of weeds like RU did. I do hope that we have learned enough to know that if this revelation occurs it will not last forever. Nothing does in nature, constant evolution is always happening. At best we can hope that we learned from RU and manage better to extend the life of the product instead of relying on that chemistry to last forever.

 

[Cyclonepride]

Actually #2 is curb population growth drastically. The sustainability problem stems from overpopulation not agricultural practices.

How you planning to do that?

 

[CykoAGR]

And this is an absolute fantasy. There will be no new miracle herbicide and there will most likely never will be. Glyphosate resistance was a freak. A mutation in algea found in a pond that Monsanto had polluted with glyphosate. The enzyme is positioned as a major player in 3 critical metabolic pathways. That is why it works so well. People and companies have been trying to find an enzyme that works as well as glyphosate for about 20 years now with zero success. Odds are we will never find anything that good again.

Yeah this is not true. Resistance source was a soil born bacteria.