Useless Majors? Link

Well, my Journalism degree from ISU was good enough to get me a civilian Technical Writing job (I write and edit the Army's/Marines' technical manuals for their howitzers) that pays $80,000+ a year. I'd say I'm doing quite well with that "lowly" degree...

Congrats I was just going to say that print journalism may be one of the most useless as most journalism seems to be online or on tv now. I realize there are still going to be a need for technical writers but the market I think has to be getting smaller for these people with these skills.
 
So let's use the article's own information.

Total number of ag managers in 2008: 1,234,000
Total farmers or ranchers in 2008: 985,900
Total number of fashion designers in 2008: 22,700
Total numbers of actors/producers/director in 2008: 155,100
Total number of animal scientists in 2008: 2700. (how many animal science majors plan to be an animal scientist anyway? )

Just found this interesting. How about a degree in common sense? That would easily make the top of the author's most useless degree list.

From what I can gather Animal science is a bridge to vet school fwiw
 
When it comes down to it, how you communicate and who you know mean a whole lot more than what you study for every job after your first one...

Big time. When you go and hire someone, it's one of the huge things you work at. You could be a genius, but we aren't going to hire you if you can't even communicate those ideas to people.

Who you know is big too, but as far as getting a job that doesn't really matter as much (unless who you know landed you that interview).
 
Big time. When you go and hire someone, it's one of the huge things you work at. You could be a genius, but we aren't going to hire you if you can't even communicate those ideas to people.

Who you know is big too, but as far as getting a job that doesn't really matter as much (unless who you know landed you that interview).


Really, no kidding. This is ground breaking info.
 
Really, no kidding. This is ground breaking info.

Yep. BIG TIME. lol, it SHOULD be obvious, but unfortunately many people still don't know this. I help recruit, and there are TONS of people (mainly students, but there are people who've been out of school too) who don't understand this.

They think it's all about getting amazing grades and to an extent it is, but they don't understand that a guy with a GPA of 3.3 who can communicate way better is going to get hired over the guy with a 3.7 who sucks at it.
 
I definitely don't undervalue Ag as a business sector, but ag as a degree? What type of jobs require a degree in Agriculture? I would think that most people who are in agriculture would be farmers who don't -need- a degree in Agriculture to farm, but I could be wrong on that.

Very wrong on that. While some "Ag" majors might want to be farmers, a lot just want to work in the industry. There are a lot of jobs that support/rely on agriculture. Think seed (Pioneer), equipment (John Deere), fertilizer, product marketing (Soybean Assoc.), etc. Go a level beyond that and you find marketing, engineering, sales, service, etc. directly related to an ag degree.

A lot of opportunity there beyond the guy that plants the seed or takes care of the animals.
 
The only value of a degree is to help get a job you like. No degree totally prepares you future employment.

Almost all jobs could be learned through an appreticeship (on the job training). A degree just gets you ahead of the curve and trains you to think like the job you want.

Very few degrees will teach you how to do a job for which you are not yet hired for. The processes of each position and each company are unique enough that it is impossible for college to totally prepare you for a future position that you have yet to move into.
 
Too many people are telling kids to go to college to get a degree so that they can earn money. Sure, that worked for me because my job requires a license you need a professional degree to get but the path to simply earning good money is SOOOO much simpler than that. Plumbers and welders make GREAT money and we need more of them.

There really is no such thing as a useless major. There are however millions of misguided youth who are missing out on making money because the notion of going to college to achieve financial security has been drilled into them beginning in middle school by ****ty guidance counselors and narrow minded parents.

I completely agree with this. Phrased a bit harshly, perhaps, but still spot-on.

My feeling is now the college degree is not valued by employers because it denotes a certain set of specific job-related skills, but a preparation in general background content knowledge, and, perhaps more importantly, a sign of dedication and commitment to a purpose.

In college, no one makes you select a major, register for classes, go to class, do your homework, study for tests, apply to graduate, make sure you have all required courses, etc etc. In this way it serves more as a general "Are you capable of being a competent adult yet?" heuristic. Employers like to see that people they are working are competent individuals, because they will train you in whatever job-specific skills they want/need.

(Clearly there may be some exceptions to this where the background content knowledge is highly specific and required for work. However, I would argue these fields are now being pushed to grad work, i.e. law and doctor, etc.)

As a hs teacher, the "college degree is useful to get money" myth is waaaaaaay too pervasive in our current society (or the adolescent cross-section I interact with). Yes, people with college degrees tend to make more money, but that doesn't mean that the college degree is what caused them to make more money.
 
College Majors That Are Useless - Yahoo! Education

4 of the top 5 useless majors are areas of study that Iowa State is fairly well known for.

I think the agriculture one is very far off. That is one of the hottest job markets and has been for a few years. I can't speak for design or horticulture and what that degree is like, but it seems that degrees in Ag are very valuable.

Thoughts?

Edit: maybe my Ag degree is bad, seeing as I didn't spell useless right the first try :pbiggrin:

ISU put together a nice little rebuttal.

College of Agriculture and Life Sciences - News Releases - No Limits to the Value of an Agriculture Degree
 
There are only people that make no use of a degree. There is no such thing as useless advanced education. There are creative people that can think and find a niche use of an education (not degree) and there are ants with useful degrees that scurry into an office everyday to work for the man. There are also useless people which I wont get into. Useless degrees I don't buy into.