Sad commentary that you have someone whose full time job for 7 years is school resource officer. Seems everyone wants to get on the (taxpayer) payroll.
unbelievable watch this
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I'm guessing that there are long standing civil rights/hate crime issues going on here with the FBI involvement. THey didn't even trust the state to lead the investigation lol. Gotta love the birthplace of the confederacy.
I'm betting $250,000 that this comment (the one you're reading, right now!) will not be the final comment in this thread.
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Just because this is a good thread, with lots of good back and forth, I'm going to let you off the hook and open the thread back up. But, just to teach you a lesson, I'm going to have to throw you across the room. Otherwise, how will you learn? :wink:
I've said this from the beginning. There was no need for the SRO to even approach her desk as he did! If she won't get up, and if she's being disruptive, then ask the other students to vacate the room. Once the rest of the class is out of the room then she has the choice of either getting up and leaving, or staying in the room until well after school is dismissed when her parent arrives. I'd like nothing more than to knock someone's head off when provoked, but as a professional.... dang it, it's not allowed. And an SRO should be professional, just like one would hope a police officer would be. Escalating violence rarely ends well for anybody. Hopefully the knuckle-dragging elements of society who are cheering on the cop begin to recognize this at some point... hopefully.
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I'm not sure I understand your comment. Many high schools even in Iowa have had SRO's going back decades.
Just about every "big" school in Iowa has a school resource officer.
I know in Ames the school resource officer has a "term" limit of something like three years, and then they return back to the force/working as street cops/uniform cops or whatever you call it.
This has actually upset many students, because they build such a great relationship with the resource officer, and then have a new officer take over.
I know in Ames the school resource officer has a "term" limit of something like three years, and then they return back to the force/working as street cops/uniform cops or whatever you call it.
This has actually upset many students, because they build such a great relationship with the resource officer, and then have a new officer take over.
[video=youtube;oRrU0R6pew0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRrU0R6pew0[/video]
In January this teacher took the kids phone because he couldn't have it in class.
Judging by the words used, they aren't messing around.
But the teacher probably shouldn't have taken the kids phone because it's the kids phone. Am I doing it right?
In January this teacher took the kids phone because he couldn't have it in class.
Judging by the words used, they aren't messing around.
But the teacher probably shouldn't have taken the kids phone because it's the kids phone. Am I doing it right?
Oh good. I was hoping we would see an "I have LIVED this, you can't imagine" response somewhere in here. Because personal anecdotes trump science.
Let's go ahead and boil down what this hardened teen criminal was doing. Playing on her phone, refusing to follow instructions, and talking back. Nobody was in danger of anything except maybe some wasted time. Nobody was in pain or threatened. If simple, nonviolent resistance (while disobeying rules and being disruptive , that was the extent of it) deserves being thrown by the throat into a wall, what is your recommendation for something as hardcore as a food fight? Shackling and whipping?
I have had experience with this but evidently your googling something is way better than that. I guess people with relevant experience in a situation like this should keep quiet so your bubble doesn't pop. You clearly can't see a bigger picture.
Every time I see this thread title my mind replaces "unbelievable" with "hold my beer" and I think its going to be rednecks doing something stupid. Then I read the title again and remember what it is. It is disappointing every time.
I like your attempts to diminish countless scientific studies just because they're available on the internet. You do get that they were the result of experiences, observations, and situations in real life, right?
I think you're maybe misunderstanding what the "bigger picture" is. Your ONE life experience does not identify a trend. Scientific studies (even ones that appear on the Google!) do.
I was told those don't matter by you. At least the ones that don't fit your narrative right. For every study that you could find about that is con spanking you could find another one that is pro spanking. The reason why is because no two kids are the same. Most kids you absolutely can't spank it does more harm than good. Some kids you have to have a consequence to their actions. A little chat with them makes no difference. I like how you think I am unreasonable with what I think. What is more reasonable? There are tons of different kinds of kids and each one has to be treated a little different or your theory that every kid in the world responds well to the same sit down talks and that is all you need. You need to put a little thought into things.
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This situation went a hell of a lot farther then a simple spankin'..... If any parent were recorded doing this same thing to their own kid, DHS would be so far up their ***....... but it's ok for a cop to do this? Again this isn't a prison or juvy hall. This is a simple example of teenage rebellion not someone endangering the public.
I understand that. Angie and I got a little off topic on something else. When it comes down do it she was asked many times to stop and leave and she refused. The cop got called in for action not counseling. Did what the cop did look rough? Absolutely. I believe he should have been counseled on what he did to improve his reaction the next time. I don't believe he is a bad person. I don't think he should have lost his job. He could have really hurt that girl if he wanted to. Instead she has a rug burn.
No. That's not what I said. I said one individual personal anecdote is not relevant. Patterns of behavior are. I also don't think one person saying "I was never spanked and I am now on law review" are relevant, either.
I challenge you to find any current studies that are pro-spanking. Search for them. I'm not talking about individual child "experts," I'm talking about psychological/sociological studies with means and norms. (Which are, again, markedly different from your personal stories.) Or, better yet, find this 1:1 ratio of which you speak, where there are even numbers with studies that have found spanking to be un-beneficial.
