Tyrese Hunter Entering the Transfer Portal - NIL Speculation

27% shooting from the college three point line is what doesn’t translate to the NBA. Especially at 6’1”.

Neither does poor handles and not being able to finish at the rim.

Hunter is a good player with a lot of upside, but if I’m UNC I gotta think my current guards are probably better, and so are the ones I could bring in. But we’ll see?
 
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Not sure why you quoted my post with this. I’m not saying anything even remotely related to what you’re suggesting.

Ok. IMO these are leaks by the Hunter camp concerning the $750k offer. Let the bidding begin. If they get that much they are gone.
 
I find the 300k to 500k really hard to believe.
Just a matter of time.

Haven’t there been 7 figure deals?

That number CW tossed out likely for the player’s career, however short or long that may be. In this case potentially 1-3 years.

For these big brands, a combo of legitimate NIL plus booster NIL, you pretty quickly get to that amount. They had donors giving far more annually on things just to hope it lures a player. $500k to actually get a player is nothing
 
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Like stated by confirmed ISU sources (CW, Stans, Etc.) Tyrese was perfectly happy/fine with being at Iowa State after the season was over.

What I think caused all of this was the fact that Tyrese stayed in Wisconsin after the Sweet 16, working out with a trainer there, and being around all those he knew before Iowa State (friends/past coaches/"handlers"). After having such a successful season at ISU I am sure he was influenced by those "back home" to go test and "max out" the NIL market. (One of his close HS friends did just that, by transferring to Wisconsin from a smaller school).

I also find it hard to believe (after the season he had) he would not get at least some NIL deals/money from here at ISU. Outside of people buying his shirts/doing cameo small things like that I really do think there would be some Ames/Iowa business that would want to have him and compensate him. That being said I just really hope the information he was given by other on the fact that the "grass is greener" really does pan out for him. I guess we will see.

The grass may not be greener, but I guarantee his wallet will have more green in it

In Blum & Williams podcast they mentioned Arkansas, Kansas, Kentucky & UNC being active in the NIL marketplace.

Would be curious to see a list of programs that currently have the ability provide athletes with $100k or greater in NIL to a single athlete. I would guess most SEC programs are there and schools in large metros like Ohio State, Texas & So Cal.
 
Ok. IMO these are leaks by the Hunter camp concerning the $750k offer. Let the bidding begin. If they get that much they are gone.
We've often discussed on here before that a majority of 'high profile' transfers already know where they're going before they enter the portal. Your opinion is that bidding is (or will continue to be) still occurring. Would be interesting to know which is happening.
 
Just a matter of time.

Haven’t there been 7 figure deals?

That number CW tossed out likely for the player’s career, however short or long that may be. In this case potentially 1-3 years.

For these big brands, a combo of legitimate NIL plus booster NIL, you pretty quickly get to that amount. They had donors giving far more annually on things just to hope it lures a player. $500k to actually get a player is nothing

I think that early on teams were using NIL to get HS recruits. Like the kid that reclassified and went to Ohio St. (who is now gone having played like 2 snaps). NOW programs see where they should be spending that money, on already proven players. Tyrese is a prime target, Freshman so could have two more years, definitely proven in a tough conference. Why waste money on an incoming HSer? The money is going to be higher than people think for TH. Definitely 6 figures.
 
Like stated by confirmed ISU sources (CW, Stans, Etc.) Tyrese was perfectly happy/fine with being at Iowa State after the season was over.

What I think caused all of this was the fact that Tyrese stayed in Wisconsin after the Sweet 16, working out with a trainer there, and being around all those he knew before Iowa State (friends/past coaches/"handlers"). After having such a successful season at ISU I am sure he was influenced by those "back home" to go test and "max out" the NIL market. (One of his close HS friends did just that, by transferring to Wisconsin from a smaller school).

I also find it hard to believe (after the season he had) he would not get at least some NIL deals/money from here at ISU. Outside of people buying his shirts/doing cameo small things like that I really do think there would be some Ames/Iowa business that would want to have him and compensate him. That being said I just really hope the information he was given by other on the fact that the "grass is greener" really does pan out for him. I guess we will see.
If this is mostly true, perhaps him having the game of his life in the tournament on the big stage, in Wisconsin no less, came back to bite us. What a great moment for him, tho, in front of his family and friends.
Just hope he goes somewhere that I can cheer for him vs. having to watch us play him two or three times a season.
 
I think that early on teams were using NIL to get HS recruits. Like the kid that reclassified and went to Ohio St. (who is now gone having played like 2 snaps). NOW programs see where they should be spending that money, on already proven players. Tyrese is a prime target, Freshman so could have two more years, definitely proven in a tough conference. Why waste money on an incoming HSer? The money is going to be higher than people think. Definitely 6 figures.
For some of these places, why not do both?

The NIL amount is currently still very low given buying players is the most important factor in getting success. $2-$3 million for a top CBB roster is barely above the recruiting operating expenses at these places, less when you factor in recruiting prowess a big part of staff salary.

Soon that salary will be based more on front office skills than even in the Hoiberg-Prohm transfer era was. What portion of funds should go to experience transfers vs the high school 5 star with upside? As Bill Self shows, lean towards transfers. That’s without even having to buy them. I don’t think Coach Cal has the front office touch, but it will be easier for him if transfers are just shopping. He’ll let the market price tell him who to sign
 
Some have posted that...I was just echoing that. Said that maybe he wanted to excel more on the offensive end or be in a better offensive system. Maybe not. Of course he will continue to shine defensively regardless. So are you saying that you think it is totally an NIL$ move?
I would like to think no major decision like this is based on one single factor. I also think it's a possibility that he's a basketball junkie that dreamed of playing for an elite program, but never got the chance out of high school. Those opportunities are now more likely.

I also think it didn't help that there wasn't a real core to Iowa St's team this year. Hunter was the only freshmen, and as of last week only 1 of 4 returning to the team. That's just how it's likely to be going forward.
 
Your point is valid, we have been the recipient like many other major schools. But what's different about this one..... I think it was harder for people to take because it 'seems' like NIL money prompted it. We'll never know, tho. Most of those transfers we got were either from weakerP5 , juco,or mid-major schools (Nader, Tyrus, Cato, Tinsley, Andersen, etc) OR P5 guys that either needed a 'fresh start' (White, Allen) or wanted a more prominent role (Babb, IB,etc). Tyrese was succeeding at a P5 Sweet 16 school that just historically shocked many basketball fans, didn't need a more prominent role or publicity...he was the freshmen of the year in the Big12, and talked about as a future NBA pick. I think the fans' reactions have been very normal and understandable for the most part. (minus the real unclassy responses)

Look: TJ is good friends w/Tyrese's high school coach, the Wisc connection runs strong, the season appeared very rewarding and high profile for Tyrese, you turn around a floundering program, go to the Sweet 16, become FOY in the big12...yet TJ still couldn't keep this guy. THAT HURTS and had to surprise so many people. Natural to speculate that NIL changes things extremely going forward.
I think NIL is just a mole hill to what changes there will be in the next 2-5 years. I think the oversight of college athletics will be very different. It also wouldn't surprise me if we don't see a breakup within D1 universities between those that are willing to adopt a pay for play model vs those that don't.
 
How many of these schools are legitimate options for Hunter, as opposed to just a gigantic list of “name” programs the author of the article pulled together?

Not sure if that author went full Bullwinkle pulling a "rabbit" out of a hat or if he just settled for the tried and tested method of just pulling a list out of his ass.
 
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JFC what part of CWs tweet about ISU putting together a group for NIL before this all happened did you not read?
Good. Better a little late than never. It seemed reactive to Tyrese leaving as he was pretty much gone before this tweet came out
 
https://m.kusports.com/news/2022/feb/10/ku-ad-travis-goff-reports-nearly-500000-nil-deals-/

Interesting article from the KU AD reporting on NIL deals they have had so far. References some 5 figure deals for basketball, but nothing at 6 figures yet. So 300k to 500k for a school like KU to go grab a player like Hunter would be a big escalation from what has happened in the first year of all this.
We’re less than a year in. Every recruiting cycle will be an escalation.
 
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