Turnovers/muffed punt

[BCClone]

I just want to point out, Manning does this a lot and people on here get hella pissed.

WHY ARE WE THROWING THE BALL GIVE IT TO BREECE

etc

I give Manning huge props last night. His halftime adjustments were perfect. Going hard play action gave purdy open receivers and that gave hall some loosened up defense.

 

[SCarolinaCy]

Like others have said, Wish they would roll Purdy out more. When he FORCED to scramble outside, both he AND the receivers have more time to get open. Helps to eliminate the risk of getting hit/fumble.

 

[isufbcurt]

I hate the prevent offense (2nd to last ISU possession) and the prevent defense (last BU possession). Way too predictable. So many NFL games have been lost using this strategy. The other game-ending strategy I don't like is moving down the field, getting to the red zone, and then running 3 plays up the middle so you can TRY a 32 yard FG. The key word is try.

Well the alternative all out blitz cover 0 gave up a TD.

Heacock was so pissed at himself for overthinking that call.

 

[OnlyCyclones]

Well the alternative all out blitz cover 0 gave up a TD.

Heacock was so pissed at himself for overthinking that call.

Yeah, that was the time to play bend-don't-break. Didn't understand that call at all. But I'm also wondering if someone missed an assignment and was supposed to at least hit the running back out of the backfield and that was what he was mad about, or maybe he was mad at himself.

 

[CyCloned]

The second to last series like others have stated baylor completely knew where the ball was going and sold out to stop Hall running. Not sure if Purdy has the ability to call an audible for 1st and 2nd down but they needed to run a similar play that baylor did to us on their long td quick slant. We sold out in both instances and to baylors credit out performed us and they had perfect calls. We need more of that, with our TE's and Hutch that would have been the nail in the coffin to Baylor with 1 more first down. Thankful for Rose on the INT, but if Baylor would have scored I believe they would have gone for 2 and most likely won the game. Need more freedom with Purdy and quick changes in those instances, play-action would have been absolute daggers.

It was clear that Baylor was just going to send everyone and hope they got to Breece or Purdy in the backfield. It would have been nice if they had something Purdy could toss quick over the middle on 2nd down, but with a 2 TD lead I can see why CMC was hesitant to do a lot. Giving up the TD on 4th and 6 was the real killer. If ISU get the stop there, they would have probably been more aggressive in play calling. Don't forget Purdy had already throw 3 picks. Another pick 6 would have been a disaster.

 

[CyCloned]

Yeah, that was the time to play bend-don't-break. Didn't understand that call at all. But I'm also wondering if someone missed an assignment and was supposed to at least hit the running back out of the backfield and that was what he was mad about, or maybe he was mad at himself.

I would guess he was mad at White, even though he fell down, he ran himself out of position and let the Baylor guy go right past him. I'm sure don't cover the running back was not a part of the plan.

 

[isufbcurt]

Yeah, that was the time to play bend-don't-break. Didn't understand that call at all. But I'm also wondering if someone missed an assignment and was supposed to at least hit the running back out of the backfield and that was what he was mad about, or maybe he was mad at himself.

Lawrence White had the RB but over pursued and then slipped.

The other thing is we went 4-2-5 on that 4th down. We had Enyi, Jaquan, McDonald and Bankston? in on the DL and took out Vance. It's armchair QBing but I would have went 3 - 3 - 5 with McDonald, Jaquan and Enyi (at nose) showed blitz with Hummel, Rose and Vance, but dropped Vance to cover the RB with White as the cleanup (in essence cover 1 instead of cover 0).

 

[madguy30]

Last series for us was similar to the CPR scenario at K State. I was at that game. We got the ball with about 90 seconds left and K State had one timeout. I explained to my wife that on 1st and 2nd downs, we needed to not take any chances but we couldn't just take a knee. We needed to hold the ball, maybe even run to the sidelines and then go down. We had to burn time to get the clock down to about 80 seconds after we got tackled on 2nd down.

Then with no timeouts for K State, we could burn up the final 80 seconds with 3rd and 4th downs. Even if there were 3 seconds left when we had to snap the ball on 4th down, you just throw a long pass out of bounds and time runs out.

But CPR somehow thought a run up the middle on 1st down was a better idea, and we all know it wasn't.

Last night we took over with 57 seconds but Baylor had TWO timeouts. So there was almost no way to run 17 seconds off the clock to get down to 40 seconds left going into 3rd down. But actually they burned 8 seconds on 1st down and 9 seconds on 2nd down and Baylor called the final timeout with just 40 seconds left. But they were ripping on that ball to get it away from Breece. I would rather not risk that even if I had to punt with 5 seconds on the clock. We were unnecessarily giving BU another chance to steal that game, IMO.

The first run by Breece on that last drive was more what I would agree with running---to the sideline and low risk for fumble.

The 2nd one was much riskier and really only lasted that long because Breece's strength/later whistle.

 

[flycy]

If we had taken knees on first and second down we would have had to punt. We needed to run plays and take just a little time off the clock, so we could get the game clock down to 40 seconds or less by our 3rd down snap.

Correct, had to eat up about 10 seconds of play time, so 2 5 second runs. Taking a knee would have resulted in a punt with around 10 seconds left.

 

[madguy30]

I'll put another plug for Lang, Jr. as returning punts. Seems to be able to catch the ball and find some space.

 

[CRCySpy]

Correct, had to eat up about 10 seconds of play time, so 2 5 second runs. Taking a knee would have resulted in a punt with around 10 seconds left.

Actually, I was thinking take a safety if it had come down to 10 seconds or less to play on 4th down. Don't punt with our issues on special teams this year.

Plus, running backwards on 4th down and running out of the endzone might have taken up all of the game clock.

 

[OnlyCyclones]

Lawrence White had the RB but over pursued and then slipped.

The other thing is we went 4-2-5 on that 4th down. We had Enyi, Jaquan, McDonald and Bankston? in on the DL and took out Vance. It's armchair QBing but I would have went 3 - 3 - 5 with McDonald, Jaquan and Enyi (at nose) showed blitz with Hummel, Rose and Vance, but dropped Vance to cover the RB with White as the cleanup (in essence cover 1 instead of cover 0).

I think we needed a different matchup than White on Ebner anyway. Ebner can fly. That's part of why I think someone was supposed to chip him, but instead he got a free run and burned White.

 

[cykick]

The second to last series we ran the ball 4 times for a net loss of 2... we threw the ball 3 times one incomplete and 2 for first downs. I agree.. we needed to run more time off the clock, however, if the punter wouldn't have shanked the last punt giving the Bears the ball on or near the 30 yd line the field would have/should have been longer for them to score.

 

[IASTATE07]

The second to last series we ran the ball 4 times for a net loss of 2... we threw the ball 3 times one incomplete and 2 for first downs. I agree.. we needed to run more time off the clock, however, if the punter wouldn't have shanked the last punt giving the Bears the ball on or near the 30 yd line the field would have/should have been longer for them to score.

The ball was kicked out at the 25. Baylor was also called for holding so they started at their own 15.

 

[moores2]

I'll put another plug for Lang, Jr. as returning punts. Seems to be able to catch the ball and find some space.

I would like to see Isheem Young. Not sure of his catching ability, but he has just the right amount of Moxy for the job.