Turnovers/muffed punt

[BryceC]

So, if you count the muffed punt as a turnover (which I do, but the box score doesn't) that means we had 4 turnovers in the game. I checked sports reference this morning, this is only the 5th game ISU has won while having 4 turnovers as far as their database goes back, and only the 2nd conference opponent. It wasn't pretty at times but just getting away with a win in those circumstances is great.

 

[SCarolinaCy]

I absolutely do not understand ISU's last offensive series, Why risk handing the ball off and running, (and deliberately losing 15 yds) when you are just trying to use clock. Take a knee if that is your strategy, However, with 5 min left, you need to get a couple of first downs. No way did I think we could keep them out of the end zone. Thank you, ROSE.

 

[Cyclonefan710]

I absolutely do not understand ISU's last offensive series, Why risk handing the ball off and running, (and deliberately losing 15 yds) when you are just trying to use clock. Take a knee if that is your strategy, However, with 5 min left, you need to get a couple of first downs. No way did I think we could keep them out of the end zone. Thank you, ROSE.

Because we didn’t want to have to punt?

 

[SCarolinaCy]

Because we didn’t want to have to punt?

? We ended up stopping the clock on a incomplete pass, then punting. Horrible series.

 

[Cyclonefan710]

? We ended up stopping the clock on a incomplete pass, then punting. Horrible series.

The play calling on our second to last series wasn’t great, I agree.

 

[DeereClone]

I absolutely do not understand ISU's last offensive series, Why risk handing the ball off and running, (and deliberately losing 15 yds) when you are just trying to use clock. Take a knee if that is your strategy, However, with 5 min left, you need to get a couple of first downs. No way did I think we could keep them out of the end zone. Thank you, ROSE.

If we had taken knees on first and second down we would have had to punt. We needed to run plays and take just a little time off the clock, so we could get the game clock down to 40 seconds or less by our 3rd down snap.

 

[jctisu]

I absolutely do not understand ISU's last offensive series, Why risk handing the ball off and running, (and deliberately losing 15 yds) when you are just trying to use clock. Take a knee if that is your strategy, However, with 5 min left, you need to get a couple of first downs. No way did I think we could keep them out of the end zone. Thank you, ROSE.

I think you mean the second to last series. The final one after Rose's INT was played out absolutely perfect by Breece.

 

[quasistellar]

There was too much time on the clock to take a knee. Needed to burn clock DURING the play as well as between.

 

[Dopey]

Hope we try to not turn the ball over next game

 

[chuckd4735]

Hope we try to not turn the ball over next game

I'm no expert, but I'm pretty sure they try and do that every game.

 

[hoosman]

I hate the prevent offense (2nd to last ISU possession) and the prevent defense (last BU possession). Way too predictable. So many NFL games have been lost using this strategy. The other game-ending strategy I don't like is moving down the field, getting to the red zone, and then running 3 plays up the middle so you can TRY a 32 yard FG. The key word is try.

 

[Cydewayz]

Because we didn’t want to have to punt?

The ghosts of CPR at KSU were in his head. Lol

 

[SEIOWA CLONE]

The problem with the last ISU series was that we got into a tight formation, and gave the ball to Hall, the guy that Baylor and everyone in the stadium knew was going to get the ball. Baylor is gambling that Hall cannot make it to the second level, and ISU was hoping he would and be gone. Baylor was correct. I would have loved to see Purdy fake the ball to Hall and then take off around the corner the other way at least once in the series, he would have walked into the endzone.

 

[SCarolinaCy]

The problem with the last ISU series was that we got into a tight formation, and gave the ball to Hall, the guy that Baylor and everyone in the stadium knew was going to get the ball. Baylor is gambling that Hall cannot make it to the second level, and ISU was hoping he would and be gone. Baylor was correct. I would have loved to see Purdy fake the ball to Hall and then take off around the corner the other way at least once in the series, he would have walked into the endzone.

Agree, BUT if the worst happens, Purdy is a fumble risk in the worst way.

 

[golfnewt]

The second to last series like others have stated baylor completely knew where the ball was going and sold out to stop Hall running. Not sure if Purdy has the ability to call an audible for 1st and 2nd down but they needed to run a similar play that baylor did to us on their long td quick slant. We sold out in both instances and to baylors credit out performed us and they had perfect calls. We need more of that, with our TE's and Hutch that would have been the nail in the coffin to Baylor with 1 more first down. Thankful for Rose on the INT, but if Baylor would have scored I believe they would have gone for 2 and most likely won the game. Need more freedom with Purdy and quick changes in those instances, play-action would have been absolute daggers.

 

[SEIOWA CLONE]

Agree, BUT if the worst happens, Purdy is a fumble risk in the worst way.

True but so far Purdy has only fumbled the ball twice this season, not a high total considering he is touching the ball on every snap.

 

[LarryISU]

Last series for us was similar to the CPR scenario at K State. I was at that game. We got the ball with about 90 seconds left and K State had one timeout. I explained to my wife that on 1st and 2nd downs, we needed to not take any chances but we couldn't just take a knee. We needed to hold the ball, maybe even run to the sidelines and then go down. We had to burn time to get the clock down to about 80 seconds after we got tackled on 2nd down.

Then with no timeouts for K State, we could burn up the final 80 seconds with 3rd and 4th downs. Even if there were 3 seconds left when we had to snap the ball on 4th down, you just throw a long pass out of bounds and time runs out.

But CPR somehow thought a run up the middle on 1st down was a better idea, and we all know it wasn't.

Last night we took over with 57 seconds but Baylor had TWO timeouts. So there was almost no way to run 17 seconds off the clock to get down to 40 seconds left going into 3rd down. But actually they burned 8 seconds on 1st down and 9 seconds on 2nd down and Baylor called the final timeout with just 40 seconds left. But they were ripping on that ball to get it away from Breece. I would rather not risk that even if I had to punt with 5 seconds on the clock. We were unnecessarily giving BU another chance to steal that game, IMO.

 

[AuH2O]

So, if you count the muffed punt as a turnover (which I do, but the box score doesn't) that means we had 4 turnovers in the game. I checked sports reference this morning, this is only the 5th game ISU has won while having 4 turnovers as far as their database goes back, and only the 2nd conference opponent. It wasn't pretty at times but just getting away with a win in those circumstances is great.

Muffed punt is counted as a turnover (fumble). It Shows as one on the ESPN box score.

 

[AuH2O]

? We ended up stopping the clock on a incomplete pass, then punting. Horrible series.

You have to try for the first down though. Too much time plus Baylor timeouts. They were in the red zone with two timeouts and a minute without playing all the fast. Too much time to concede with the thought of running clock or getting Baylor to burn a TO. Get that first down there and you just run it three times.

 

[dualthreat]

The second to last series like others have stated baylor completely knew where the ball was going and sold out to stop Hall running. Not sure if Purdy has the ability to call an audible for 1st and 2nd down but they needed to run a similar play that baylor did to us on their long td quick slant. We sold out in both instances and to baylors credit out performed us and they had perfect calls. We need more of that, with our TE's and Hutch that would have been the nail in the coffin to Baylor with 1 more first down. Thankful for Rose on the INT, but if Baylor would have scored I believe they would have gone for 2 and most likely won the game. Need more freedom with Purdy and quick changes in those instances, play-action would have been absolute daggers.

I just want to point out, Manning does this a lot and people on here get hella pissed.

WHY ARE WE THROWING THE BALL GIVE IT TO BREECE

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