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I don't think Matt Campbell is exploiting players, because everyone knows the deal and has a choice coming in. I think you hit it on the head - college football has created a ton of jobs, so people are assuming that means there are all these people getting rich off these kids. Overwhelmingly it's that with the added complexity and dollars at stake there are a ton more people working in these industries. The Presidents don't make any/much more because frankly even with the explosion in college athletics it remains in the noise of the overall university revenues. ADs to some extent make a lot more, but their staffs and the complexity of their jobs have grown exponentially. A handful of conference commissioners? I guess. But between ADs and commissioners you aren't talking about all that much money. Almost all the "wealth" in college sports has gone to the coaches. They are overwhelmingly the individuals getting rich from the explosion of college sports.

And I'm OK with any argument except throwing out the exploitation charge while simultaneously holding up coaches, the individuals getting rich, as good guys in all this. This is the same dumb Jay Bilas argument. "Universities" are getting rich off these kids, but these coaches are great and should make tons of money. I'm so tired of hearing people claim he's some smart guy when he makes this clueless argument over and over again, as if there is some boardroom of executives at university athletic departments making millions a year or something. At Duke that's a one-man executive board getting rich, and that's Coach K.
Interesting take on the broader industry, job creation and I’ll add community economics.
 
The NIL could be a little sticky.

Not sure I want a player representing Porn Hub or something. Does the AD need a quasi HR department now?

Maybe it would've been easier to actually put players on the school payroll.

If I'm Campbell doesn't this all start to look like the NFL? If it looks like the NFL then why not go get paid in the NFL
What part did all of this have in recent high level retirements in MBB?
 
we agree. As I’ve mentioned elsewhere we likely need a new body, not the NCAA. CFB needs an overarching governing body to protect itself from its own selfish, predatory practices And meddling of media “partners”. A CFB commissioner, with stroke, is needed to work with the conferences for the bettermeant of not just CFB, but all college athletics.
But what I'm saying is that, in order for this new governing body to avoid the anti trust traps that are clearly out there, they're not going to be able to govern all schools. Maybe the power 5 conferences could get away with it, but I think more likely you're going to see it get more regional. The SEC, for example, with the addition of Texas and Oklahoma, has 9 of the top 15 most valuable football programs in the nation.
Source: https://247sports.com/LongFormArtic...ost-valuable-programs-128030289/#128030289_11

I'm sure they've examined splitting from the other schools and forming their own league with their own rules.
 
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But what I'm saying is that, in order for this new governing body to avoid the anti trust traps that are clearly out there, they're not going to be able to govern all schools. Maybe the power 5 conferences could get away with it, but I think more likely you're going to see it get more regional. The SEC, for example, with the addition of Texas and Oklahoma, has 9 of the top 15 most valuable football programs in the nation.
Source: https://247sports.com/LongFormArtic...ost-valuable-programs-128030289/#128030289_11

I'm sure they've examined splitting from the other schools and forming their own league with their own rules.
I’m tracking. We are in agreement, you are also concerned that the SEC might keep governance from being comprehensive. I feel the same way, all need to be in. If the SEC is rogue, it will be challenging. I hope the Alliance was those three leagues taking a hard look at the situation and charting a better course,
 
If that is such a good rule then why don't the professional leagues allow such mobility?

Because pro athletes sign a contract which in the NBA starts at almost $1M/year for rookies. They’re official employees.

Here’s a better question: Why for the longest time did the NCAA give immediate eligibility to all transfers except for those in football, basketball, baseball, and ice hockey?

$$$ The answer is pretty clear $$$
 
Because pro athletes sign a contract which in the NBA starts at almost $1M/year for rookies. They’re official employees.

Here’s a better question: Why for the longest time did the NCAA give immediate eligibility to all transfers except for those in football, basketball, baseball, and ice hockey?

$$$ The answer is pretty clear $$$
This is an excellent point, and one that gets forgotten about sometimes. The NCAA's rules weren't even consistent across their own sports. They didn't even care that the arguments they were making were full of holes, though. It's why I'm not at all sad that the pendulum has swung the other way. Seeing the hubris shatter is heartwarming.
 
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But what I'm saying is that, in order for this new governing body to avoid the anti trust traps that are clearly out there, they're not going to be able to govern all schools. Maybe the power 5 conferences could get away with it, but I think more likely you're going to see it get more regional. The SEC, for example, with the addition of Texas and Oklahoma, has 9 of the top 15 most valuable football programs in the nation.
Source: https://247sports.com/LongFormArtic...ost-valuable-programs-128030289/#128030289_11

I'm sure they've examined splitting from the other schools and forming their own league with their own rules.
Not sure that is true. How do the pro leagues get away with anti- trust rules? The colleges would have a hard time with being non-profits if challenged. The Power 5 knows this already and needs to step lightly
 
Because pro athletes sign a contract which in the NBA starts at almost $1M/year for rookies. They’re official employees.

Here’s a better question: Why for the longest time did the NCAA give immediate eligibility to all transfers except for those in football, basketball, baseball, and ice hockey?

$$$ The answer is pretty clear $$$
It's really aligned with their respective CBA's. NFL - players get 60% of revenue, but the big give on their part is all contracts are essentially for one year (players can be cut) plus signing bonuses.
 
The colleges would have a hard time with being non-profits if challenged. The Power 5 knows this already and needs to step lightly

I’m having trouble wrapping my head around the idea that public universities would ever be considered a for-profit institution by the courts. Matt Campbell and Kirk Ferentz are state employees.
 
Not sure that is true. How do the pro leagues get away with anti- trust rules? The colleges would have a hard time with being non-profits if challenged. The Power 5 knows this already and needs to step lightly

Pro leagues avoid anti-trust primarily because the employees have union representation - collective bargaining.

I think the answer to all this (should be, anyway) a new "commissioners office" like MLB or NFL or NBA with real authority. Create a CBA with the college players; you can cover NIL, transfer rules to make poaching less damaging, maybe even some partial revenue sharing to prevent too much imbalance. This would be the smart and logical way to do it, imho, so of course it's unlikely to happen.

The alternative is letting SEC/ESPN turn themselves into MLB while everyone else becomes the minor leagues to find/develop players that they can come in and buy later. Have to hope the Alliance and (god help us) the gubmint force it a better direction.
 
Not sure that is true. How do the pro leagues get away with anti- trust rules? The colleges would have a hard time with being non-profits if challenged. The Power 5 knows this already and needs to step lightly
It's true, and it has everything to do with the player's union collectively bargaining the rules they play by.
The NCAA fought tooth and nail to oppose players organizing back when the NLRB made their finding several years back. If they would have let it happen, they would be in a much better position today.
 
I'm sure you're aware of all of this but it's a good read.



I have read that before and it reads like these athlete's have been and are working in textile sweat shops. You know, like Lebron's comments about how playing in the NBA is not unlike slave days. That is a special kind of stupid.
 
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