Thoughts on next year?

Step 1, stop the run. Not many of ISUs opponents go 5 wide. I think our LBers can generally cover most TEs and RBs out of the backfield.

Step 1 is to not give up chunk plays, particularly home run TDs

Eventually most college offenses will make a mistake if you make them snap the ball enough.

See the Miami game. Even without really stopping the run until we committed to it late in the 4th, once we stopped giving up chunk plays and made Miami drive, they did the rest

Obviously against Miami it was as much about guys not tackling well in the box, but when the opposing offense is talented, we definitely will rope a dope them by giving up rushing yards and check downs.
 
IDK. I know the common theme is injuries but IMO, we need an upgrade athletically defensively. And while experience can help teach you how to take angles, the proper way to take on a block, etc... it can't help you run faster. Against explosive teams we seriously struggled and it wasn't just about inexperience. Some if it? Sure.

All of it? No. We just looked slow. Say, 60% of that was from inexperience. That's fair and valid.

But the other 40% of that? That's just not having that natural ability to go from a 20 technique, scrap over the tackle and make a tackle in the D or E gap. That's what made Rose early and Hummel special as he got his moments to shine was their ability to run the width of the field. Because a lot of runs that killed us this year and even to some degree last year have not been right up the middle, but rather off tackle, which is where the LB has to be able to fit and scrape.

And losing Peterson, TO and Singleton - the three best edge setters we had when Dom was at nose guard - puts even more pressure on that. And now add losing two hammers in the run game in Malik and Beau. Again, more pressure there. Which is nothing the coaching staff I'm sure is not already aware of.

But that's why the QB killed us and off-tackle / stretch plays have hurt us recently. We didn't have quite the dominant edge setting like we had earlier, and then we lacked the LB's who can fit and scrape at a super high level. So kind of a perfect storm.

Right now on paper, our edges looked suspect with TO leaving and JR/ Peterson graduating. The kid from UNI looks decent, would have been nice to get the D2 kid to at least add depth, and I know we picked up another edge guy from Tulsa but based on build my guess is he'll be better at rushing than a true edge setter against the rush although maybe time will prove me wrong on that. Maybe Carnell takes a huge step forward next year and we're going to need Ikenna to be massive next fall.

But right now? The front 6 has me a little cautious in terms of expectations for next year. We needed to improve before TO left. Had we had TO, Ike and Orange starting with Carnell / Hawk / new people or Myles ... we'd have still needed to improve but the floor felt higher.


I don't think we're anywhere close to at risk of going 4-8 or 5-7 next year. But until we get a better idea of how the front 6 fits together, I'm think 7 wins is probably my projection. If the DL + LB can take steps to improve back to what has been more the norm (Solid) not looking for elite, knowing the secondary probably takes a slight step backwards ... then maybe we can challenge again. I know his stats maybe don't show it, but losing TO to me was a massive, massive loss. Sure, Carter and Moore have in theory the size/frame, but that's an unknown right now.
Totally agree with the need for speed but it's hard to find as everyone is recruiting speed.
 
Which ones cover the receivers and backs in routes? None have the speed, those receivers will look like randy moss with our backers covering them. We have to have 5 DBs on the field unless we get a backer who has AJ Klein speed.

I trust the coaches to figure it out. In the end, not sure scheme matters as we have players who are hybrid LB/DE's and S/LB in the 3-3-5 defense.

LB's like Bacon, Ebel, Lovett, Brezina are big enough to play DE in a college 4-3 scheme or rush OLB in a 3-4 scheme.

Similarly, safeties like Freyler, Verdon and Neal would be TE cover LB's for a lot of teams that run a 4-3 or 3-4 scheme instead of safeties.
 
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I trust the coaches to figure it out. In the end, not sure scheme matters as we have players who are hybrid LB/DE's and S/LB in the 3-3-5 defense.

LB's like Bacon, Ebel, Lovett, Brezina are big enough to play DE in a college 4-3 scheme or rush OLB in a 3-4 scheme.

Similarly, safeties like Freyler, Verdon and Neal would be TE cover LB's for a lot of teams that run a 4-3 or 3-4 scheme instead of safeties.
230-240 pound backers are light for defensive ends. They better be McDonald quick to even have a chance. Will was light and he was in that range.
 
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You're largely getting guys that are tweeners in a 4 man front. In fact, ISU can make a living getting guys that are otherwise undervalued as DEs in a 4 man front.

Other than McDonald, who was a home run, the handful of elite 4 man front DEs that can rush the passer and hold up in the run game are going to play for the blue bloods. Everybody else is deciding if they want undersized pass rushers or bigger guys that hold up against the run. Then you're also trying to find multiple good interior guys that are tough to find in college.

It's tough because the league is getting more and more power running, which makes the 3-3-5 a bit of a disadvantage. But the 3 man front also lets ISU avoid a little more competition for guys that can fit the ISU front.
Since adopting the 3-3-5, we have always had a hybrid type player as the 3rd Safety/4th LB. Depending on who is available next year, I wouldn't be shocked to see that hybrid role more often being a LB/DE that is up at the line at the snap in a 3-4-4 type arrangement. This would be in the same mold as Micah Parsons at PSU (not to say we have that caliber of player on the roster).

Something that works in our favor is this staff has shown a strong ability to develop guys at DB and S, so put more faith in your strength as a defense, and commit one more bigger body, especially in early downs. Switch back the the 3-3-5 as needed based on down and distance.
 
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Did he end up getting a scholarship? The reason bring it up as he was listed as a recruit by ISU on signing day.

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I am not 100% sure that they didn't end up giving him a scholarship but I'm pretty sure it was mentioned in the article that listed all the guys we signed that he was a preferred walk on.
 
I am not 100% sure that they didn't end up giving him a scholarship but I'm pretty sure it was mentioned in the article that listed all the guys we signed that he was a preferred walk on.
Didn't we just add a QB/PK/Punter walk-on from North Scott like a week ago?
 
Just some random thoughts, Aiden Flora saw some action as a true frosh and seemed like he has decent speed. I wonder if he would move into that slot position. Dominic Overby has very impressive track times in the 100/200 from high school along with almost 24' in the long jump. 6'5" but skinny but that is impressive. Bacon is 6'4"/245 could he change to DE? The LB from Gilbert was a sprinter on the track team. Maybe he'd give us some needed speed at LB. The Helton twins now have a year in the system, that should provide some good competition on the OL. The youngest Peterson is 6'1" 235, if he's as tough as his brothers maybe he could be the next FB now that Stevo is done.
The best part is we have come off a great season and have 8 months to talk football.
 
230-240 pound backers are light for defensive ends. They better be McDonald quick to even have a chance. Will was light and he was in that range.

Guys like Bacon, Ebel, Lovett, etc. are all listed at either 240/245 which isn't uncommon in college FB as DE. Plus, in a 4-3 or 3-4 (OLB) a S&C staff would push to get their weight in the 250-260 range.

Similar progession as a guy like Joey Peterson:
  • Soph - 240lbs
  • Jr - 255lbs
  • Sr - 260lbs
Conversely, feel like some of our 3-3 LB's would play at a lower weight if they were in a traditional 4-3 scheme.
 
Guys like Bacon, Ebel, Lovett, etc. are all listed at either 240/245 which isn't uncommon in college FB. Plus, in a 4-3 or 3-4 (OLB) a S&C staff would push to get their weight in the 250-260 range.

Similar progession as a guy like Joey Peterson:
  • Soph - 240lbs
  • Jr - 255lbs
  • Sr - 260lbs
Conversely, feel like some of our 3-3 LB's would play at a lower weight if they were in a traditional 4-3 scheme.
I’ve posted several times that I thought putting 20 pounds on bacon and make him a rush end would be best. 255-260 is a decent weight for that, I will agree. I got beat up pretty good about my Bacon comments. I agree with you if you are suggesting putting a little more weight on those backers, at current weight I think they are a tad light.
 
Totally agree with the need for speed but it's hard to find as everyone is recruiting speed.
Right but I don't just mean speed. Find an explosive player. A guy who can close that final half hard fast or can explode through the ball carrier to knock him back, etc... but yes, you are 100% correct, everyone wants those guys.

But that's what Iowa did well for years and still does to a degree. Takes big LB's and turns them into DE's. Takes big Safeties and turns them into LB's through development. That kind of thing.
 
I’ve posted several times that I thought putting 20 pounds on bacon and make him a rush end would be best. 255-260 is a decent weight for that, I will agree. I got beat up pretty good about my Bacon comments. I agree with you if you are suggesting putting a little more weight on those backers, at current weight I think they are a tad light.
I've also thought along with you that Bacon would be better there... and frankly, if Brezina gets much bigger, maybe him as well.

For the record, I thought Vance's senior year he might have been almost too big at LB though he still played fairly well
 
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I assume we are after another RB as well?? Sama may be a good candidate to look elsewhere/transfer out and we can bring in someone more able to run between the tackles. Abu should be in a system where his athletic ability in space can be more featured. Is Dylan Lee likely ready for RB2/3?

Now, if Mouser wants to get the RB's more involved in the passing game.. I would love to see Sama featured in that kind of a system, he can make a defender miss on the edge and break big plays.
I think Sama could be in line for a big year next year. He made great strides in running more north and south between the tackles after really struggling early. Hansen and Sama could be really good together next year. Both made improvements this year. Hansen’s improvement just showed up more because he got more carries late in the year.
 
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I think Sama could be in line for a big year next year. He made great strides in running more north and south between the tackles after really struggling early. Hansen and Sama could be really good together next year. Both made improvements this year. Hansen’s improvement just showed up more because he got more carries late in the year.

I have a feeling that 2024 was a big eye-opener for Sama and he'll have a big 2025 as part of a two-headed monster RB tandem. I don't feel it's physical for Abu, but learning to trust his OL to open holes.
 
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Things get interesting also when you consider rosters go down to 105. We showed 125 last I saw. Lost 10 to the portal and gained 5 in the last report. Not sure the exact numbers of Covid guys coming back. We had what 15 or so recruits and lost close to 20 for graduation? Roughly means we need to trim 10-15 and then whatever takes Covid or we pick up in the portal from here on out.
is the scholarship limit still 85?