Thoughts on Coach, Be Respectful
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Guys...cmon, mike davis? Let's think about this a little differently.
Forget a mid major retread, or an "experienced" coach - they way out of the doldrums is to hire a young up and comer who will love coaching in Hilton, the Big12, and will recruit his butt off. That's the kind of guy we need. We need a guy who's only making 150K and will jump at the chance to make 850K.
When we hired Orr, we paid him 51K..he was making 30-something at Michigan.
When we hired Floyd, we paid him 450K, and Tom Davis was making 300K.
We were one of the first schools to hit the 1M mark with LE.
But in today's $$$$? Big time coaches are making 1.5M OR 2M plus - to make the equivalent hire today we'd have to pay 3M x 7 years. That just won't happen. My worry is that we are permanently priced out of big time coaches - that's reality.
Forget a mid major retread, or an "experienced" coach - they way out of the doldrums is to hire a young up and comer who will love coaching in Hilton, the Big12, and will recruit his butt off. That's the kind of guy we need. We need a guy who's only making 150K and will jump at the chance to make 850K.
When we hired Orr, we paid him 51K..he was making 30-something at Michigan.
When we hired Floyd, we paid him 450K, and Tom Davis was making 300K.
We were one of the first schools to hit the 1M mark with LE.
But in today's $$$$? Big time coaches are making 1.5M OR 2M plus - to make the equivalent hire today we'd have to pay 3M x 7 years. That just won't happen. My worry is that we are permanently priced out of big time coaches - that's reality.
The hate on this site for the man most responsible for the glory years of ISU basketball astounds me.
Wasnt Mac an up and comer when at UNI? Orr was an experenced coach. Floyd played his cards right and got paid. LE earned that money.
11 players have left in the last 3 years. We don't know how to defend a pick and roll, which you're taught in middle school. He is doing alright recruiting, but he can't get them to stay. Our offense seems to be stand and stare at the guy who has the ball. We lost the UNI game solely on coaching. He didn't know how to teach his own guys how to defend his own defense. He is doing a terrible job. He can't hack it at this level. We need a change to a younger guy who would be excited to be here and at least make an effort to teach these kids. I firmly believe that Johnson and Staiger left because they didn't believe they were learning enough here at ISU to become a good professional player. I don't blame them one bit.
I think any fan calling for a coaches job in the middle of the season is being disrespectful to both the coach and the team. At the end of the season it will be all worked out. The more negativity the bigger the distraction. If you want to send a strong message, without being disrespectful, stop going to the games. Empty seats speak volumes.
Cyclonepride
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If you want to compare, look at Anderson's at MU and Ford at OSU. Both situations were similar, and actually MU was more of a mess than what McD had. We are definitly not in as good of shape as either school. I think a coach and style similar to Anderson's would be the best. 40 minutes of hell provides more dunks, more steals, louder crowd, and we hold home court.
Thank you Swanson. They may be slow, but you can teach them to be in the right position to make up for it... and if the guy gets past you, how bought somebody else step in and help out instead of staring at him. How many open threes did TT have tonight because our guys were just staring at him instead of getting a hand in his face?
Cyclonepride
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What is the right position? If you are slow, you have to back off your guy to prevent the drive, and he shoots a wide open three all day. If you get up on him, he'll drive around you.
These kids need a message sent to them. Benching players isn't going to be a good way to do it. How bout he spends a whole practice on fundamentals such as dribbling with your hands instead of your feet, boxing out, shooting free throws, and keeping people out of the lane. It would be degrading to the players in a good way.
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I have no issue with what our previous coaches were paid. I'm just pointing out that what an "average" coach makes today is well beyond what we can pay. Travis Ford makes 1.9M per year. Belein just got a huge raise at Michigan. Forget Jay Wright or Jaime Dixon - those guys would need $4 million per to think about ISU.
Cyclonepride
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Anderson did an impressive turnaround at Mizz. Just remember that he had a 6'8" nephew (who made the NBA) who transferred to play for him, plus he grabbed a stud PG (Tiller) who was recruited to play for him at UAB. GMac didn't (couldn't) bring any players with him. More of an AD issue to consider when you're having huge turnover.
For hasn't done anything yet - he inherited a sr. laden team with a couple McD's AA's. We'll see how he does this year.
