This threads are funny to me, considering we run a very NBA-like offense with Fred... If you hate the NBA, you will probably hate Iowa State basketball in the coming years.
The NBA is a farce
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I assume you also think NCAA basketball is an abomination too? Because if you think the NBA is bad, then you must hate the NCAA tournament.
Amen to this. Talked to Craig B. when he was back. He went to practice and said Fred runs a practice exactly like a nba practice.
My problem with the NBA playoffs is they drag out WAY too long. Switching the first round to best of 7 was ridiculous as is a series taking two days off between games when there's no travel involved. New Orleans beats the Lakers in Game 1 on Sunday and don't play Game 2 until tonight???
I agree that they are dragged out to long, but when networks are paying billions of dollars to show the games, they're gonna do it on their schedule.
As for the best of seven first round, I love that change. The NBA is the only major sport where the best team that season wins the title almost every single year. Going to best of seven helps eliminate fluke upsets.
I agree-ish. The best of 7 was to try and get more $$. The days inbetween has to do with TV programming. On one hand, it stinks waiting for a particular series to get on with it. On the other hand, it probably helps ensure that players are not as worn down, making for a better product on the court.
If some of these series go 7 games, the first round won't be done until May 1. That's two weeks just to get out of the first round and there's three more best of seven rounds to go. There's no sense of flow or momentum to the NBA playoffs because they drag it out.
There's zero reason to have two days off between games unless its the finals and you have the Lakers and Celtics flying cross country to switch sites.
You may not like the NBA game, but you can't tell me there isn't at least one player on each playoff team (well maybe not the Pacers and Sixers) that you don't like to watch play? Rose? Kobe? Wade? Durant? Paul? Even if you don't like the team game, you have to admire what these guys do.
Agreed. Play at least 4 games a night, an early and a late on TBS/TNT an early and a late with one on ESPN and one on NBATV. Throw in the afternoon ABC games on weekends.
The Celtics Bulls game from 2 weeks ago was one of the best defensive basketball games I have watched in years. Their switching and help defense is incredible, best I have seen at any level. How these two coaches get highly played offensive minded individuals to play defense like that is outstanding.
Only problem I have with the NBA is their technical rules and the time outs at the end of the game moving the ball to halfcourt.
The Celts/Knicks series has been outstanding so far...reminds me of the Celts/Bulls series from 2009. Intense defense, and clutch offense. I'm a die-hard Celts fan, but that performance by 'Melo last night was unbelievable. If you couldn't enjoy/admire that effort then you simply can't appreciate basketball.
The "NBA plays no defense" crowd is really just horrible at math and logic.
Take even the most boring teams in college basketball, let's say Wisconsin vs. Butler.
Let's say one of their snoozer games full of DEFENSE is 52-50.
1. First off, they have to play this snoozer basketball for 8 more full minutes, now the score is something like 61-59.
2. Every NBA roster is filled with guys who can knock down open shots, there are a few bad shooters on NBA teams for various reasons, but the average NBA journeyman vet is light years better shooting the ball than the average college player. Way too many college players clang open bunnies. By drastically improving the quality of shooters now that score is something like 70-68.
I won't mention that NBA defenders are more skilled because it's offset by better athletes on offense, but knocking down open shots DEFINITELY makes for higher scoring in pro ball than college. This difference is just as glaring between US college ball and a top European leagues like Spain's.
3. Saved the biggest math idiocy for last - 24 seconds vs. 35 seconds. Add on about 33% because they'd take 33% more shots in the same amount of time for this one change. Now the score of these two teams, the lowest scoring teams in college hoops is 93-90.
The rules are different, the athletes are drastically different quality, the game clock and shot clock are COMPLETELY different. The NBA season is 82 games, can be well over 100 games including playoffs and preseason. Sure there are some players who don't go 100% through all 82 games, but there are still some major games being played by the top teams on the defensive end. The defense in the NBA playoffs is light years more intense than anything in the college game.
Take even the most boring teams in college basketball, let's say Wisconsin vs. Butler.
Let's say one of their snoozer games full of DEFENSE is 52-50.
1. First off, they have to play this snoozer basketball for 8 more full minutes, now the score is something like 61-59.
2. Every NBA roster is filled with guys who can knock down open shots, there are a few bad shooters on NBA teams for various reasons, but the average NBA journeyman vet is light years better shooting the ball than the average college player. Way too many college players clang open bunnies. By drastically improving the quality of shooters now that score is something like 70-68.
I won't mention that NBA defenders are more skilled because it's offset by better athletes on offense, but knocking down open shots DEFINITELY makes for higher scoring in pro ball than college. This difference is just as glaring between US college ball and a top European leagues like Spain's.
3. Saved the biggest math idiocy for last - 24 seconds vs. 35 seconds. Add on about 33% because they'd take 33% more shots in the same amount of time for this one change. Now the score of these two teams, the lowest scoring teams in college hoops is 93-90.
The rules are different, the athletes are drastically different quality, the game clock and shot clock are COMPLETELY different. The NBA season is 82 games, can be well over 100 games including playoffs and preseason. Sure there are some players who don't go 100% through all 82 games, but there are still some major games being played by the top teams on the defensive end. The defense in the NBA playoffs is light years more intense than anything in the college game.
The season is too long for basketball. April should be the month in which the final two rounds are played, not the first round. I'm especially annoyed that the NBA playoffs run almost to the MBB All-Star break. The NBA playoff season needs shortened.
Outside of moments when DG called something for himself as the clock was winding down, ISU concentrated on creating shots through BALL SCREENS and MOTION, not isolation plays and pick 'n rolls. The simple fact that you cannot tell the difference leads me to believe that you are not quite an expert on the subject.
Having a professionally run practice doesn't translate into the offense being a NBA-style offense, which it isn't.
They ran it like that because of the lack of athleticism on the team. Also, we didn't run motion, and the ball screens will be minimal when we have more guys that can drive. The bread and butter of the team was pick and pop, and shooting 3s in transition. 3s in the future we be more based on driving and kicking out when we have guys that can do that. We didn't roll on the high post picks because the guy rolling would be Jamie.
Fred is telling all these guys he can get them to the NBA. Do you think he won't run an NBA-like offense when he actually has athletic players?
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While neither one is 100 percent accurate, the first would probably be closest to being true. I can't stand to watch bad basketball where two people play one-on-one while everyone else watches. But I do watch it for as long as I can stomach it, which is like 2 minutes tops.
You NBA freaks HAVE to admit that the game barely resembles the college one. They ramp up the shot clock so it's a faster-paced game, but that just encourages more one-on-one play, which is completely anathema to the college game that I love to watch.
When ISU was in a half-court set, and Scotty would run from one wing off a screen, come of another screen, while Ejim or Godfrey moved towards the high post to free up JVB. All the while jake is moving away from the ball towards his spot on the far wing. In this time span a least 3 passes were made. If the open shot didn't develop, DG was given the keys to break it all down. It is indeed a motion with set plays.
Yes, the bread & butter is transition, no doubt. But this doesn't translate into a NBA-Style offense. Name me one coach on any level that DOESN"T want easy baskets in transition.
