The Deion Sanders thread

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How so? Like in a ‘leave Britney alone’ kind of way? Or in a ‘why the **** is everyone talking about this kid’ kind of way?
I’ve seen it both ways so far. Some think the league is picking on him, and other analysts are saying he might just not be worth it.
 

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I’ve seen it both ways so far. Some think the league is picking on him, and other analysts are saying he might just not be worth it.

I have a hard time believing if he was worth a darn that this wouldn’t be a good fit for a team on the field and from a marketing and ticket sales standpoint
 

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I don't buy any narrative for this freefall other than that he's just not that good.

NFL teams for decades have drafted guys with some serious off-the-field question marks because they had the talent and potential.

He is not good enough for the drama he would bring. Kid from Tennessee that walked over NIL money will likely not be worth it either.
 
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Really got laughable when Klatt brought up the question if Sanders should just return to CU. He can’t of course, but it’s classic homer ‘I’ll take my ball and go home’ mentality by Klatt.
 

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I think it’s a combination of both. He’s not good enough to justify the circus that Deion/ESPN would bring.
This is exactly it. He’s an okay prospect, not a great one like some people want to pretend. He’s simply just not good enough for a GM/Owner to justify signing up for the **** show that comes along with him.

There are lots of just okay prospects that don’t come with that baggage. Those guys also didn’t get to do whatever they felt like on the field, throw the ball 50 times a game, have to that great supporting cast of receivers, etc.

So I get the slide completely. It’s unfortunate that Deion lacks the self awareness to look in the mirror and realize this is pretty much all his doing as well. His personal ego has led directly to this result for Sheduer.
 
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I don't buy any narrative for this freefall other than that he's just not that good.

NFL teams for decades have drafted guys with some serious off-the-field question marks because they had the talent and potential.

Lessons learned. They probably use AI to make the CBA now.
 

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I don't buy any narrative for this freefall other than that he's just not that good.

NFL teams for decades have drafted guys with some serious off-the-field question marks because they had the talent and potential.
Yup, Green definitely fell this year with his off the field issues, but still got drafted.
 

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This is exactly it. He’s an okay prospect, not a great one like some people want to pretend. He’s simply just not good enough for a GM/Owner to justify signing up for the **** show that comes along with him.

There are lots of just okay prospects that don’t come with that baggage. Those guys also didn’t get to do whatever they felt like on the field, throw the ball 50 times a game, have to that great supporting cast of receivers, etc.

So I get the slide completely. It’s unfortunate that Deion lacks the self awareness to look in the mirror and realize this is pretty much all his doing as well. His personal ego has led directly to this result for Sheduer.
It's the Tebow Effect all over again. Was TT good enough to be a serviceable QB in the NFL? Yes but not good enough to offset the circus that came with him. Good or bad, he drew so much attention it made it harder for whatever team he was on and his talent wasn't enough to make that worth it. Sanders is the same situation. If he was an elite talent, teams would just overlook it or at least take a flyer on him. But you have questionable character (entitlement), mediocre on-field performance, the fact that he's only ever played for his father, and all the other BS around him (the personalized draft room is a good example).

And to add to what you said that is bolded: Sanders' big hurdle is showing teams he's not an entitled prick. You know what really reinforces that image? When your dad has the program retire your number after one very mediocre season.
 

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It's the Tebow Effect all over again. Was TT good enough to be a serviceable QB in the NFL? Yes but not good enough to offset the circus that came with him. Good or bad, he drew so much attention it made it harder for whatever team he was on and his talent wasn't enough to make that worth it. Sanders is the same situation. If he was an elite talent, teams would just overlook it or at least take a flyer on him. But you have questionable character (entitlement), mediocre on-field performance, the fact that he's only ever played for his father, and all the other BS around him (the personalized draft room is a good example).

And to add to what you said that is bolded: Sanders' big hurdle is showing teams he's not an entitled prick. You know what really reinforces that image? When your dad has the program retire your number after one very mediocre season.
I agree with this premise, but Tebow was definitely not good enough to be an NFL QB.
 

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I agree with this premise, but Tebow was definitely not good enough to be an NFL QB.
I agree, but Tebow did enough in his one season as a starter to earn another shot imo. If he didn’t have all the hullabaloo around him.

I’ve been shocked by Shadeur’s drop honestly, but he must have been horrible in his interviews + the off-field stuff. It’s gone from the consensus opinion of he’s not a top pick value cause of talent and off-field stuff to, oh **** teams really hate this kid.
 
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I agree, but he did enough in his one season as a starter to earn another shot imo. If he didn’t have all the hullabaloo around him.

I’ve been shocked by his drop honestly, but he must have been horrible in his interviews + the off-field stuff. It’s gone from the consensus opinion of he’s not a top pick value cause of talent and off-field stuff to, oh **** teams really hate this kid.
This is my point. The guy won an NFL playoff game which is more than a lot of QBs can say. His talent was a 3/10 but the circus was -10/10. Take away the circus and I bet he at least gets a shot at a starting job somewhere.

Another thought on Sanders: with Deion rumored to want an NFL job some day, you can imagine how a coach would not want to draft Shaduer knowing Deion would be in the ear of the GM from day 1 if he didn't like the decisions around Shaduer. That's yet another factor in the circus.
 
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Many teams passed on Randy Moss due to "character issues." How did that work out for them?

The NFL is a media circus. Their practices and locker rooms are open to the media. ESPN is already there. As a Saints fan, Ditka was a moron to pass on Randy Moss, and as a fan Id rather have Sanders than Derek Carr or the bum they drafted who was always hurt in college.
 

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The coverage of this by the national media and the NFL has been shameful. Just embarrassing all the way around.
They propped him up for months to be this top 5 pick caliber player... and now that he didn't get picked like they projected him.... they are shocked... and think it has to be some kind of conspiracy.

I like Rich Eisen, but even he was saying he thought all the NFL teams and the league got together and teamed up against the Sanders family or something. What? Just because the NFL teams didn't think he was as great as you all made him out to be?? This is insane. And dumb.
 
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Many teams passed on Randy Moss due to "character issues." How did that work out for them?

The NFL is a media circus. Their practices and locker rooms are open to the media. ESPN is already there. As a Saints fan, Ditka was a moron to pass on Randy Moss, and as a fan Id rather have Sanders than Derek Carr or the bum they drafted who was always hurt in college.
Big difference is that Moss was the most physically gifted WR of all time. Shadeur is a slightly above average QB
 

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After Shedeur's slide in the draft, he would make more money playing for the Buffaloes.

That's the big not reading the room part for the Sanders clan, he could have played another year at Colorado and made all sorts of NIL money. Now that's gone and he's either working to get a camp invite or working as an assistant to his dad at Colorado. Will be interesting to see if he can even deal with being an undrafted guy trying to make a team via a camp invite.
 
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