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Texas needs to go
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It's widely documented that you can smooth over Erik's ruffled feathers with COUPONS!
And I'm not saying Texas is innocent in all of this, either. The 8 schools only needed 1 of the 4 schools to effect change, and Texas could have been one of those schools as well. And yes, Texas did about kill several small Big 12 schools by taking 1/3 of the schools with them. But at least in the 11th hour Texas was willing to sit with the forgotten 5 to hear what they had to say, and what they had to say apparently was good enough to make the conference worth saving in Texas' eyes. That's why, even though Texas is part of the problem, I'm not going to blindly blame them for all the conference's problems. And it's why I get tired of hearing A&M's and OU's whining - because like Texas and Nebraska, they too could have been the vote to effect change, and instead looked out as one of the 4 schools their own power interests.
By revenue sharing is what I meant, my bad lol. ISU definitely still gets something out of the deal, and a pretty big something, at that.
As far as Texas' revenue, that figure has to be in terms of just one area of their revenue. IIRC, they led the nation in overall revenue last year.
Nebraska fans are a different animal. Actual Nebraska fans that have followed their program for a long time are not too bad. It is the bandwagon jumpers that joined their ranks when Nebraska was collecting National Championship trophies like they were going out of style that you have to watch out for. Their knowledge of Nebraska football starts with Tommy Frazier, took a several year break during the Callahan experiment, and is now back in full force with the psychotic Pelini Bros. in charge. These Nebby fans are complete idiots.
Be warned... you will not be able to visually tell the difference between the good and the bad Nebby fans so you must treat them all as a threat. Don't ever let your guard down around them.
I think this is the same as Iowa fans. For me, it seems to split down "the went to school there or not" line. My father in law went to Nebby, my sister in law went to Iowa. I got the smart one who went to ISU. Both of them are good about it. They understand it. The bandwagon folks who root for nebby due to success, or Iowa because "that's just what you do" don't understand that ISU having a bad season (or decade) won't make me not a fan, and they seem to have to prove how big a fan they are by being a jackwagon.
Hawk fans are just jealous of Iowa State because the Big 10 ended up with just Nebraska and we still have Texas and Oklahoma. The Hawk fans want all of the marbles because after all, they are the Hawks. They also covet Notre Dame and can't have them either. We steal the Hawks' thunder and they just can't stand that. Must be a tough life being a Hawk!
I'll be honest, I didn't attend the University of Iowa but I still consider myself to be a huge fan. I didn't have the resources to attend college after high school so I went straight to a factory job, now 10 years later I have just recently quit that job and I am going to college (community college), but that's all we can afford. Sorry to ramble but the generalization that you have to be an alumni to be a real fan of a school drives me crazy, yes there are bandwagon fans for every school, some more than others, but just because someone attends a school does not make them more qualified than me. rant done now haha.
That's not quite fair. I get the annoyance with the true TavernHoks. They annoy me a lot, too. But they're good for business, and Pollard would LOVE to have more fans like that.
Also, many fans don't necessarily hop on the bandwagon. In my case, I'm named for a Hawkeye. It's what I was born with. In the end, I've ended up at the university, but even if I'd gone to someplace like Simpson, I'd always be a die hard Hawk fan. My dad is that way, even though he went to Simpson and Central. He was born in 1950, so he didn't have very much time to really enjoy the success of Evy, and spent more time cheering for those God awful teams we put out in the 60's and 70's. And I'm sure that there are plenty of fans who have a similar story when it comes to their fanhood.
But that's not to say that there aren't plenty of the bandwagoners, too.
Sorry, should have been more clear, I was worried this would come up. I DON'T think you have to go to a school to be a fan. It's a free country, and Iowa doesn't have the budget it has because of only alumni. My only point was that the most obnoxious ones tend to have not gone to school there. I don't believe that all non-alumni are obnoxious, nor that there are no alumni who are obnoxious, it just tends to trend that way based on my non-scientific experience in hawkeye land.
It seems to me that alumni tend to realize it's different if you are an alumni. Different, not better or worse. No amount of agruing on my part, and no amount of ISU winning or Nebby losing will make my father in law an ISU fan, he understands the same about me. I don't think the obnoxious non-alum Iowa fans shouldn't be fans, I don't care what they do, I just think less of them as people because they are rude.
And by no means think that I think less of someone who didn't go to college. I was the second in my extended family to attend college (first was my bother). Both of us did so by working our way thru. I am proud that I did, and more proud that I'm no longer paying off my student loans, but whether or not you are a good person is not determined by whether or not you attended a university.
That is what I'm talking about. That is the only revenue that we would get from Texas, but they don't even steal the show. A&M, OU and Kansas are right there with Texas and last year some of those brought in more TV money than Texas.
The only other way that you could argue that Texas helps us out is because they are in our league and ESPN probably pays us a bigger chunk of change because of that; however Texas doesn't have control over that so you can't thank them. This is no more direct help from Texas than having their fans come up and pay for tickets to watch them play us at our stadium. It is part of being in a conference.
Yes Texas is a cash cow, but most of the cash comes from sources that they don't have to share like merchandise. tickets, the Longhorn Network, etc.
tm: good for business: yes, yes they are (I included the comment above before I read your reply).
I hate to give tm more credit :smile: but for prdhawk's benefit: tm is a good example of a non-alum (apparently) that isn't a jerk. Look at his posts, he's on an ISU fan site, and he pings the hawk trolls himself. He realizes he's on an ISU board, and he realizes we all like different teams for different reasons. Not saying you're different, I just don't know your history that well, and I'm just trying to show I'm not the elitist, didn't go to college, you can't watch college football fan.
Technically, the only reason that I'm not an alum of the university is because I'm an undergrad at the university :smile:
This is incorrect. That is definitely nothing something you can bank on. Alot of these schools might like to rattle their swords and complain about Texas, but alot of that is just them appeasing their fanbases and playing the PR game.
You and I are completely missing each other. Revenue sharing refers to the big dog actually taking some of its own income and handing it back to the little dogs. Like the Yankees have to give a huge chunk of money to MLB which is shared with the other clubs.
That is not what I'm referring to. I'm referring specifically to the new gigantic TV deal that was signed with Fox and the gigantic TV deal that will undoubtedly be signed with ESPN in 2016 (if the sky doesn't fall before then.) Those deals are as big as they are, in part, because Texas is in our league. ISU and several other members of the Big XII are richer because Texas is in the league. I don't see how anyone could argue against that.
