Tayvonn Kyle Starter

[Aclone]

I didn’t catch this until I read the postgame notes, but apparently Tayvonn Kyle made his first start at corner yesterday.

I know he came in as a wideout, and I know he’d been playing more lately. Looks like he had a decent game. Anyone have any more insight on this?

 

[WIB]

I was wondering the same thing. Maybe after the 1Q we thought we should put some hands in the secondary, as Hurts was throwing it right to us.

 

[Aclone]

I was wondering the same thing. Maybe after the 1Q we thought we should put some hands in the secondary, as Hurts was throwing it right to us.

Well, I think he beat out Datrone Young at corner, but I thought someone might know more.

 

[PsychedCy09]

Well, I think he beat out Datrone Young at corner, but I thought someone might know more.

yeah I don’t have any details but Datrone has struggled this year and probably left the door open to take that spot. Kyle did look good for the relatively small amount of time he has been at corner

 

[06_CY]

Kyle got the start and looked pretty good. Young is very talented and a solid player but he's looked lost out there a bit this year.

 

[cyrocksmypants]

Kyle got the start and looked pretty good. Young is very talented and a solid player but he's looked lost out there a bit this year.

Young got beat badly a couple of times yesterday (though, granted, it was against probably the best receiver in the game.)

 

[demoncore1031]

Kyle gets beat a lot but he looked decent yesterday. He came up and made a nice tackle for loss on a screen pass and it was good to see that. ISU is usually great at that but has not been this year.

 

[BWRhasnoAC]

Kyle gets beat a lot but he looked decent yesterday. He came up and made a nice tackle for loss on a screen pass and it was good to see that. ISU is usually great at that but has not been this year.

Peavy spoiled us.

 

[cyrocksmypants]

Kyle gets beat a lot but he looked decent yesterday. He came up and made a nice tackle for loss on a screen pass and it was good to see that. ISU is usually great at that but has not been this year.

You mean Young?

 

[demoncore1031]

Peavy spoiled us.

Peavy was great against the screen pass but Payne was even better.

 

[NATEizKING]

We lucked into him being a Cyclone, he wasn't a take until someone flipped or committed elsewhere late. Can't recall which, but he was headed to a Georgia school if not for that late happening, Georgia State I think it was.

 

[Frak]

Getting tired of seeing Young fly up and miss the tackle. That's the one area where our defense has struggled vs the past few years. To play this defense, you have to have elite tacklers at DB and we don't have it. Especially with Eisworth hurt.

 

[NATEizKING]

Getting tired of seeing Young fly up and miss the tackle. That's the one area where our defense has struggled vs the past few years. To play this defense, you have to have elite tacklers at DB and we don't have it. Especially with Eisworth hurt.

The DB's have been tough, I also think Rose was a better MLB than on the outside, but for the sake of the team I understand the move.

 

[NickTheGreat]

Getting tired of seeing Young fly up and miss the tackle. That's the one area where our defense has struggled vs the past few years. To play this defense, you have to have elite tacklers at DB and we don't have it. Especially with Eisworth hurt.

I don't know, he tackled DeShaunte Jones pretty well at the end of the Iowa game

 

[TedKumsher]

Getting tired of seeing Young fly up and miss the tackle. That's the one area where our defense has struggled vs the past few years. To play this defense, you have to have elite tacklers at DB and we don't have it. Especially with Eisworth hurt.

I really don't think Payne/Peavy struggled. I've only noticed the poor tackling on the outside this year (D. Young) -- and mostly because it was so good the last 2 years.

 

[heitclone]

Our CB's have big shoes to fill. Peavy and Payne were as good a tackling corners as you'll find, that made things easier for the other 9 guys.

 

[TheJackWePack5]

You can see the athleticism and potential with Kyle.

With the youth at CB, we should (knock on wood) be pretty solid there for years to come.

 

[OnlyCyclones]

Peavy and Payne were high-end tackling DBs and always kept the edge. Young has been burned not properly setting the edge at times. Him and Kyle will both continue to improve in that regard.

It seems that we're asking our corners to play more man this year, which makes their coverage duties more difficult. Not sure if it's because of deficiencies elsewhere (safety) or because we think we can do it and apply more pressure (a la TCU). If we can eventually leave both corners on an island (and Johnson is most of the way there) we'll be very dangerous. Kyle is 4.4 speed and a high school track guy. Young's nickname is "Speedy." They have the tools and toughness, they just need to fine tune their technique.

 

[Frak]

I really don't think Payne/Peavy struggled. I've only noticed the poor tackling on the outside this year (D. Young) -- and mostly because it was so good the last 2 years.

No, those two did not struggle. What I meant is that we are struggling this year vs what we had in the past. Young flies in and misses the tackle more often than not. We did not have that problem with Peavy and Payne. Bickham is not a solid tackler. Eisworth usually is, but not when he's dinged up. White is just OK there. We win the past two games with Peavy and Payne.

 

[CyCloned]

Somewhat unrelated, but what does ISU have for young safeties? Lewis is a senior and Elsworth might be done after this year. The guy from Rice seems to get a lot of playing time, and has struggled. Just concerned about what happens next year.