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Remember when football meant something? The pageantry? The school spirit? The segregated teams? The leather helmets? The internal bleeding and spinal injuries?

I’m not gonna let this commercial dog ruin my bowl season spirit!
 
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Since it sounds like Darien Porter is coming back I'd guess he gets the start. Will be a good opportunity for him to gain some more expierence and momentum going into next year.
This is the under appreciated upside of bowl-season opt outs: Talented players lower on the depth chart get quality reps against good competition. In Porter's case, I think he has significant upside and just needs some seasoning to come into his own as a Power 5 CB with NFL potential.
 
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i know maybe for us fans it sucks all these guys opt out

coaches don't really care. they use these games as a measuring stick for the next year, anyway. it's essentially a pre-season game for spring practice.

i think a coach would take having 20+ extra practices and another "game" over blowing up the whole bowl system.
 

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i know maybe for us fans it sucks all these guys opt out

coaches don't really care. they use these games as a measuring stick for the next year, anyway. it's essentially a pre-season game for spring practice.

i think a coach would take having 20+ extra practices and another "game" over blowing up the whole bowl system.
I would think it’s also meaningful to the seniors who know this is their last game. Get that trophy.
 
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Honestly at this point I think it is time to flush the bowl system. Maybe we go to an even larger playoff. Lower divisions manage it. I still watch these games, but when you have double digit numbers of players opting out for a single team it is really hard to take the results of these things seriously.

Why do you have to take them seriously it’s a game. It’s fun to watch.
 
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Honestly at this point I think it is time to flush the bowl system. Maybe we go to an even larger playoff. Lower divisions manage it. I still watch these games, but when you have double digit numbers of players opting out for a single team it is really hard to take the results of these things seriously.
im not sure people inside the athletic buildings actually do. It's more of an exhibition. Obviously they want to win because they have that competitive drive, but they know what it is.

who hates more football? Not me.
 

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I would think it’s also meaningful to the seniors who know this is their last game. Get that trophy.

I was surprised to listen to Jeff woody say how much he enjoyed the bowl experience all 3 times. He’s usually pretty cynical.
 

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I think it’s a badge of honor and shows the underclassmen what hard work and dedication brings.

Hes 100% earned the right.

Plus there is so much on the line for these guys.

It’s a business decision, for both sides.

Imagine if Breece blows his knee out in Orlando instead of NFL Week 7

Jaylon Smith blew his knee in the Fiesta Bowl and cost him about $13 MILL.

(He ended up getting paid down the road but it could’ve easily not worked out that way).
 

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The opt out discussion is basically the talk of sports radio for all the stuff discussed here (NFL prep, NIL impact, transfer portal, etc).

I saw a tweet that the Troy QB was one of like 60 senior QBs, but he was the only one that was with the same school his whole career.

I get that guys like Tampa shouldn't risk injury, etc....but why don't more playoff guys opt out? They are as likely to get injured in the additional games. They are "playing for something" I guess....but one of those things that I don't get as the future money logic should still apply
 

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The opt out discussion is basically the talk of sports radio for all the stuff discussed here (NFL prep, NIL impact, transfer portal, etc).

I saw a tweet that the Troy QB was one of like 60 senior QBs, but he was the only one that was with the same school his whole career.

I get that guys like Tampa shouldn't risk injury, etc....but why don't more playoff guys opt out? They are as likely to get injured in the additional games. They are "playing for something" I guess....but one of those things that I don't get as the future money logic should still apply
The “playoff guys” are playing against the best competition possible.

The draft boards aren’t finished by a long shot.

You have huge games in those final two and it moves the needle and the Bank Account.

TJ2 in this bowl game has relatively Zero upside.
 
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The “playoff guys” are playing against the best competition possible.

The draft boards aren’t finished by a long shot.

You have huge games in those final two and it moves the needle and the Bank Account.

TJ2 in this bowl game has relatively Zero upside.
Yeah, that's fair.
 

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I think it’s a badge of honor and shows the underclassmen what hard work and dedication brings.

Hes 100% earned the right.

Plus there is so much on the line for these guys.

It’s a business decision, for both sides.

Imagine if Breece blows his knee out in Orlando instead of NFL Week 7

Jaylon Smith blew his knee in the Fiesta Bowl and cost him about $13 MILL.

(He ended up getting paid down the road but it could’ve easily not worked out that way).

I get a league game is always going to have a little more juice, especially against a rival. But if that last game had been against BYU, and Tampa decides to sit out once ISU is out of contention for the conference championship game, are people going to be fine with it? I don't see a big difference between that and a bowl game. At least not the difference that I think most people's reaction would be if guys sat each out. I think many of the same people thinking Tampa should 100% sit out of the bowl would be freaking out if he had sat out of the final Big XII game. Yet, the rationale used by most to frame the bowl games as meaningless pretty much all apply to the last Big XII game for ISU each of the last few years other than 2020.

Personally I don't care much either way. If a guy like Tampa sits out, it makes sense. If he decides he wants to play in the bowl, I would respect the hell out of that as well. He's been a hell of a player and representative for ISU, and he deserves to opt out and put his energy toward the combine.

I can still find enjoyment in watching ISU play with opt outs. As long as the teams can be pretty functional, seeing up and comers play some real snaps is interesting.
 

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