I think the only way 1 of the Big 4 gets voted out now is if Eva plays her Safe without power on herself this week.
Survivor 48
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I usually like chaos too but I’m really rooting for the honesty alliance to work. The drama for me is can they keep it together and make it work compared to the usually survivor chaos, blindside, and back stabbing. I like this cast so much that I don’t need the chaos to be entertained.
Plus, if it holds - the last few episodes are going to be wild.
Also, while Star is entertaining - her not playing her shot in the dark shows she’s not a real player. You HAVE to play it there.
I don't think she ever was a real player. Unless they just were not showing us what else she was doing. She didn't make much of a difference in the game. At least the stunt man was a real player and competing. He just got to paranoid and had to go. They cut him at the right time with him being a challenge problem for Joe and Eva.
Starting to wonder if Kyle has it in him to make a big move after this past week. He's playing both sides right now without really "playing" as he has his secret alliance with Kamilla but I wonder if he has it in him to actually go after Joe Eva or Shauhin as time is running out. Eva has 2 advantages about to come into play and Joe is a threat to win most challenges. At some point he is going to have to pick which alliance means the most for his game, is it Kamilla or the strong 4 alliance. He's worried about betraying 2 people that are not going to ever work together with him and the longer he waits to decide which one means more to his game the harder it may be to get to the end or possibly lose some jury votes in the process. I think had he drew the line in the sand this week and went after a blindside of Eva or Shauhin without them catching wind of it that would have given him a leg up going forward as he would have the numbers with the remaining weaker players.
I've said it all along, Joe is my favorite and I was glad he won immunity this week so it made the vote tougher. As for the safety without power advantage, the next immunity challenge is going to be key if that gets played in some form or if Eva just keeps it and doesn't use it. It's not a given that if she gives it to someone they would use it or possibly they secretively give it to someone else they are targeting to vote out to throw off the vote. I could see them try to pull in Mary or Mitch with it as both are desperate to stay in the game at this point then vote the other out or blindside Kamilla without Kyle knowing. Mitch and Kamilla just don't have the guts to rock the boat and make a strong push to take out one of the strong 4 and their time may have run out on that plan now without Kyle and/or Shauhin turning on that alliance to vote with them. Kyle's best shot at winning is to get rid of Joe and probably Eva too because if he has to sit next to either one of them in the final 3 I think he loses. He has kept Kamilla in his backpocket too long not to use her by now if he is serious about taking her to the end IMO.
As for Star she was a hoot and should have got more time in the edits. She wasn't strategic at all but the longer she stayed in the game the more fun she was and while she did not really seek out an alliance I think someone missed out not working with her more as socially she was mostly liked by all I think and she would have been a good voting block to have. That's the flaw some of the remaining players are going to have going forward is who are your voting blocks to make a big move now when you have all basically stuck with each other for most of the votes.
I would love to see a final 4 of Joe Eva Kyle and Shauhin then let the fire challenge send the best 3 left for a really tough jury vote. Some of my favorite all time winners are strong players that found a way to the end. Tom Westman is probably my #1 and if Joe wins he would probably move up to a close 2nd on my list. In no particular order Danni Boatwright, Aras Baskauaskas, Yul Kwon, Parvarti Shallow, JT Thomas, Tony Vlachos, Sarah Lacina, Ben Driebergen, Wendell Holland, Mike Gabler are 10 others that had to battle being targets for most of their seasons and win immunities at crucial times while also carefully navigating the votes and this season feels like one of those seasons where the stronger players want to go up against the best at the end and I love that even if the votes have been somewhat boring and predicable. I told my family tonight while watching this week that I think the odds of Joe winning are slim and they should vote him off because he is the best player in the game and usually players like him do not make it to the final 3. That being said he's the player I am rooting for to win as I think he easily becomes a top 5 all time winner if he does.
I've said it all along, Joe is my favorite and I was glad he won immunity this week so it made the vote tougher. As for the safety without power advantage, the next immunity challenge is going to be key if that gets played in some form or if Eva just keeps it and doesn't use it. It's not a given that if she gives it to someone they would use it or possibly they secretively give it to someone else they are targeting to vote out to throw off the vote. I could see them try to pull in Mary or Mitch with it as both are desperate to stay in the game at this point then vote the other out or blindside Kamilla without Kyle knowing. Mitch and Kamilla just don't have the guts to rock the boat and make a strong push to take out one of the strong 4 and their time may have run out on that plan now without Kyle and/or Shauhin turning on that alliance to vote with them. Kyle's best shot at winning is to get rid of Joe and probably Eva too because if he has to sit next to either one of them in the final 3 I think he loses. He has kept Kamilla in his backpocket too long not to use her by now if he is serious about taking her to the end IMO.
As for Star she was a hoot and should have got more time in the edits. She wasn't strategic at all but the longer she stayed in the game the more fun she was and while she did not really seek out an alliance I think someone missed out not working with her more as socially she was mostly liked by all I think and she would have been a good voting block to have. That's the flaw some of the remaining players are going to have going forward is who are your voting blocks to make a big move now when you have all basically stuck with each other for most of the votes.
I would love to see a final 4 of Joe Eva Kyle and Shauhin then let the fire challenge send the best 3 left for a really tough jury vote. Some of my favorite all time winners are strong players that found a way to the end. Tom Westman is probably my #1 and if Joe wins he would probably move up to a close 2nd on my list. In no particular order Danni Boatwright, Aras Baskauaskas, Yul Kwon, Parvarti Shallow, JT Thomas, Tony Vlachos, Sarah Lacina, Ben Driebergen, Wendell Holland, Mike Gabler are 10 others that had to battle being targets for most of their seasons and win immunities at crucial times while also carefully navigating the votes and this season feels like one of those seasons where the stronger players want to go up against the best at the end and I love that even if the votes have been somewhat boring and predicable. I told my family tonight while watching this week that I think the odds of Joe winning are slim and they should vote him off because he is the best player in the game and usually players like him do not make it to the final 3. That being said he's the player I am rooting for to win as I think he easily becomes a top 5 all time winner if he does.
The best player of the season doesn't always win. Charlie losing to Kenzie two seasons ago is still criminal
I can’t help but think that going and getting the Safety without power instead of the extra vote may have been a mistake by Eva.
I thought the same thing at the time when she chose that option. She already had an idol so the extra vote later in the game feels like it would be a more powerful advantage.
Will be interesting if the advantage even gets used or not this week. I guess just having any kind of advantage like that also works in your favor at times too if people are scared you will use it and they go home as a result sometimes that in itself gives you power over multiple tribals without even using it.
She will have to use it this week... if she's going to. Losing her vote would the alliance in a shaky spot, so my guess is that she does not use it, or gives it to someone else at tribal.
Maybe if Joe doesn’t win immunity, she gives it to him to ensure his safety. Or if her alliance is split on who to vote for, she could give it to the person she’d rather keep. But even that feels too sneaky for Eva, who seems pretty above board.
I think the likeliest is scenario is that it’s just a keepsake. Maybe she waves it around at Final Tribal to say “look, I didn’t even need this advantage that would’ve saved you”
She could but they still would not have to use if if they wanted to keep their vote.
I think this is a big week for Joe and Eva, 1 needs to win immunity then if needed the other could use the safety without power advantage which would force the remaining players to make a tough vote. Mitch and Mary would likely be targeted but would be funny if the 2 of them and Kamilla would team up and vote out Shauhin to chip away at the strong alliance. If that happened then a line in the sand would be drawn and Kyle would have to chose between his strong alliance or abandoning Joe and Eva.
She was in on the getting rid of Kamilla thing with David and Mary. If she is still in that camp then she could tell Mary she can save her and give her the SWP. That essentially takes a vote away from the minority alliance and ties Kyle's hands from being able to flip the vote. They would then be able to vote out who they want "Kamilla" that is still there. This to me is the most effective use of SWP at this point. She gets to drive the vote, use her advantage, and take away Kyle's back pocket partner. Only thing stopping her is Joe believes Kyle isn't in cahoots with Kamilla and Eva falls back on Joe's judgement when she isn't sure.
I really hope Eva pushes the Kamilla vote so Kyle starts to squirm again. He really got worked up last time the vote was going on her instead of Chrissy and if he did the same again that would hopefully raise the red flag to Joe that there is something going on there. I can't wait for the after show this season when David finally gets to point out "I was right!" and see how perceptions may change about him being acting paranoid.
Kyle might give up his whole game trying to protect Kamilla. At some point he has to bail on that.
There's 3 options Eva has with the SWP, ranked most to least likely:
1. It doesn't get played at all. All the votes are too important.
2. She uses it on herself (or Joe, they're a duo so it's one and the same). If she and Joe get spooked at all that Shauhin or Kyle aren't 100% into alliance, the one that doesn't win immunity could use the SWP and keep the idol for later.
3. Use it on someone else (not Joe). Unlikely option, but this could be the move that wins the game for Eva. She has a great story at final tribal, but imo she loses to Joe right now. She needs a move to separate herself from everyone in the game. She held the idol basically the entire game. Then she gets this SWP, give it to Mary at 7, make a secret side alliance with her. Use that to eliminate Mitch and Kamilla in next 2 votes.
1. It doesn't get played at all. All the votes are too important.
2. She uses it on herself (or Joe, they're a duo so it's one and the same). If she and Joe get spooked at all that Shauhin or Kyle aren't 100% into alliance, the one that doesn't win immunity could use the SWP and keep the idol for later.
3. Use it on someone else (not Joe). Unlikely option, but this could be the move that wins the game for Eva. She has a great story at final tribal, but imo she loses to Joe right now. She needs a move to separate herself from everyone in the game. She held the idol basically the entire game. Then she gets this SWP, give it to Mary at 7, make a secret side alliance with her. Use that to eliminate Mitch and Kamilla in next 2 votes.
Option 3 is the right move but I agree it is the least likely to happen.
Producers had to be piiiiiiissed when Eva drew the purple rock for that journey. Easily the most boring result.
