Shaggy is under the bus.....
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Thanks! I honestly didn't think it was that high. I guess I forgot about he Toledo game where we broke 20.
We should be scoring MORE TDs when we get in the red zone but JC, you think we could at least count on getting 3 points when we are inside the 20 but we can't even do that.
The fact is, football teams do not score a TD everytime they get inside the redzone. Not even close. That's why field goal kickers have a job. If it were so easy to score once we got inside the 30, why do any of the 110-something Division 1 teams have a kicker.
It's easy to say "just score more" but there is a reason the field goal attempt exists.
We're the worst kicking team in the Big 12. I don't dislike Shaggy, and in reality he is probably going to be the deciding factor in the only game we win this year. But the reality is outside of the Iowa game where he was 5-6, he has been 2-9. He came into this season with the record for all-time ISU career FG%. He has no chance of leaving with that record.
Basically, Shaggy has taken a lot of guff when he never should have been in this position. Mac should have recruited over him 4 years ago, but he stubbornly never did and now he is a defensive line coach.
Basically, Shaggy has taken a lot of guff when he never should have been in this position. Mac should have recruited over him 4 years ago, but he stubbornly never did and now he is a defensive line coach.
Agreed.....we've discussed this so many times.....McFarlands offense great at moving the ball between the twentys but we just don't have the athletes to match up and win one on one battles at the skilled positions....sorry.....
In watching the Oklahoma, texas and texas tech games, thats what i see....the wideouts are simple off of our charts....and no todd blythe does not qualify.....I've never seen todd catch a 5 yard slant turn it up field and take it 40 or 50 yards.....just isnt happening...Our competitors do have those weapons and it deflates an opponent and puts them on their heels instead of them being at the line of scrimmage and ready to knock us in the jaw because we have no threats......
Common chiz, we need to recruit wideouts that are in the 3-4* range, we need the playmakers outside....you want an awesome running game, have the safeties worrried about a 80 yard td reception and suddenly those run averages go from 3.9 yards a carry to 4.9 yards a carry.....if we were averaging that right now we would have as many yards rushing as Meyer has throwing....then we could say we have a spread offense because the defense would have to defend the whole field.....
You would think it would be relatively easy to recruit a kicker to come here. You'd just have to tell him that if he comes in and can be accurate from 40-45 yards and in, he will be a hero on campus. :skeptical:
Not that I don’t applaud your efforts here, but at some point in the not too distant future, I predict the guardians of the English language will simply give up and accept “mute point†for what people think it means. The etymology of “moot point†doesn’t really make much sense anymore, anyway
Whoever kicks fiedlgoals the next four games better make thjem because it is so demoralizing to a low scoring team that does not have a large archive of touchdown plays this year. 14 TDs or 1.7 touchdowns per game usually results in 1-7.
I also think the special team runbacks and punt returns have added zilch to a winning effort in 95% of the cases. What is with that? No one on this team is shifty enough to cause a missed tackle. Maybe Scales should run back kickoffs. Maybe Bass should be the punt returner. Need some moves.
KICKOFF RETURNS G Ret Yds TD Avg
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1. Kansas.............. 7 18 538 2 29.9
2. Oklahoma............ 8 26 720 1 27.7
3. Missouri............ 7 23 565 0 24.6
4. Texas............... 8 26 607 0 23.3
5. Colorado............ 8 36 816 0 22.7
6. Nebraska............ 8 46 1038 0 22.6
7. Texas A&M........... 8 24 540 0 22.5
8. Oklahoma State...... 8 31 691 1 22.3
9. Texas Tech.......... 8 33 710 0 21.5
10.Kansas State........ 7 26 527 1 20.3
11.Iowa State.......... 8 33 624 0 18.9
12.Baylor.............. 8 36 664 1 18.4
PUNT RETURN AVG G Ret Yds TD Avg
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1. Kansas State........ 7 22 454 3 20.6
2. Missouri............ 7 14 208 2 14.9
3. Texas Tech.......... 8 23 286 0 12.4
4. Colorado............ 8 33 340 0 10.3
5. Kansas.............. 7 21 198 2 9.4
6. Texas............... 8 15 139 0 9.3
7. Oklahoma State...... 8 20 178 1 8.9
8. Baylor.............. 8 20 175 0 8.8
9. Oklahoma............ 8 27 211 0 7.8
10.Texas A&M........... 8 17 124 0 7.3
11.Nebraska............ 8 14 77 0 5.5
12.Iowa State.......... 8 10 39 0 3.9
The Alpha Sigma Phi cannon will not even have to be cleaned out this year. Seems liike nine touchdowns have been scored on the road in three games and only five at home in five games. Columbia should be a shootout.
I also think the special team runbacks and punt returns have added zilch to a winning effort in 95% of the cases. What is with that? No one on this team is shifty enough to cause a missed tackle. Maybe Scales should run back kickoffs. Maybe Bass should be the punt returner. Need some moves.
KICKOFF RETURNS G Ret Yds TD Avg
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1. Kansas.............. 7 18 538 2 29.9
2. Oklahoma............ 8 26 720 1 27.7
3. Missouri............ 7 23 565 0 24.6
4. Texas............... 8 26 607 0 23.3
5. Colorado............ 8 36 816 0 22.7
6. Nebraska............ 8 46 1038 0 22.6
7. Texas A&M........... 8 24 540 0 22.5
8. Oklahoma State...... 8 31 691 1 22.3
9. Texas Tech.......... 8 33 710 0 21.5
10.Kansas State........ 7 26 527 1 20.3
11.Iowa State.......... 8 33 624 0 18.9
12.Baylor.............. 8 36 664 1 18.4
PUNT RETURN AVG G Ret Yds TD Avg
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1. Kansas State........ 7 22 454 3 20.6
2. Missouri............ 7 14 208 2 14.9
3. Texas Tech.......... 8 23 286 0 12.4
4. Colorado............ 8 33 340 0 10.3
5. Kansas.............. 7 21 198 2 9.4
6. Texas............... 8 15 139 0 9.3
7. Oklahoma State...... 8 20 178 1 8.9
8. Baylor.............. 8 20 175 0 8.8
9. Oklahoma............ 8 27 211 0 7.8
10.Texas A&M........... 8 17 124 0 7.3
11.Nebraska............ 8 14 77 0 5.5
12.Iowa State.......... 8 10 39 0 3.9
The Alpha Sigma Phi cannon will not even have to be cleaned out this year. Seems liike nine touchdowns have been scored on the road in three games and only five at home in five games. Columbia should be a shootout.
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The etymology of “moot point†doesn’t really make much sense anymore, anyway
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Shaggy is just like a golfer who makes all the putts on the practice green but when he's on the course and the pressure is on...well the guy just cant seem to make a putt to save his life.
Sound famaliar? I would forget about field goals and just go for the first down every fourth and short inside the opps 40 yard line.
Sound famaliar? I would forget about field goals and just go for the first down every fourth and short inside the opps 40 yard line.
Not that I don’t applaud your efforts here, but at some point in the not too distant future, I predict the guardians of the English language will simply give up and accept “mute point†for what people think it means. The etymology of “moot point†doesn’t really make much sense anymore, anyway
No need to "pylon" here.
Why is it so hard to ask to score more? I realize we can't score on every drive but for heaven's sake we haven't even been close to adequate in this aspect. Especially when your kicking game is so bad.
Kent State: 14 points, 2 TDs
UNI: 13 points, 2 TD 0/1 FG
Iowa: 15 points, 0 TD 5/6 FG
Toledo (our lone offensive outburst against a crappy team): 35 Points, 5 TD 0/1 FG
Nebraska: 17 points, 2 TD 1/1 FG
Texas Tech: 17 points, 2 TD 1/1 FG
Texas: 3 points, 1/2 FG
Oklahoma: 7 points, 1 TD 0/1 FG
We have 14 TDs to 15 FG attempts. :no: And you can't put much into that Toledo game because they are giving up 42.88 points a game to their opponents so if you take out that game we've averaged a measily 1.29 TD a game.
I don't think Chizik is throwing Shaggy under the bus. Let's face facts:
1. Shaggy is doing the best he can
2. He's a great kid
3. He has missed clutch field goals, more than we all care to remember
4. He has made a lot of field goals
It's not fair to him to not have any other options. All the pressure is on his back, and I imagine he would be more than happy to watch someone else kick.
On Chiziks side, he doesn't know what to do. He has no options for a kicker, and he has not said anything disparaging about Shaggy. But Chizik is as frustrated as anyone.
All in all...it's too bad for Shaggy and Iowa State. I feel for him. I'm betting he will be relieved when the season is over.
I definitely agree with you trav. The offense HAS to do more to get into the endzone but my point was that its not going to happen everytime and we NEED a reliable kicker that can make kicks in order to be sucessful. We just cannot afford to leave points on the field.
