3 sec/big 10
2 big 12/acc
Notre dame will always make it bc ND
2 G5 champs
3 at larges.
SEC/Big10 Pushing for 16 Team Playoff
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2 big 12/acc
Notre dame will always make it bc ND
2 G5 champs
3 at larges.
Why have 2 G5 champs when most of the good G5’s are now in the Big12?
Just threw it in. Would do that to cut the 4 autos to the b10 and SEC. Could just do one G5 and another at large.
Then why be in the same division? If you don’t want G5, break away and form your own association and don’t schedule them in the regular season.
Ultimately, I say get rid of the auto-bids and selection committee and come up with a computer model to select and rank the teams. If a G5 plays well enough to be ranked high, give them a shot. Also, with the unbalanced schedules even within conferences, the conference championships are becoming more about your schedule than the quality of your team.
They don’t get scheduled in the regular season, they get scheduled as non cons, that’s why you have to pay them to show up.
I do agree with no auto bids though, however I’m fine with auto bids for champions.
Right up until #1 Georgia (Sugar Bowl winner) and #2 Ohio State (Rose Bowl winner) both finish 14-0, and then we get SEVEN MONTHS of off-season ********.
If the games count to your record, it’s the regular season.
I can get behind autobids for the top 5 or whatever number conference champs. But beyond that, it needs to be purely based off a BCS type formula. No conference deserves more than 1 auto bid. Earn it.
That's another problem is there is no "formula" anyway. Perhaps BCS-type model isn't perfect, but at least it's something.
That's an element that puzzles me about increase in auto bids. As mentioned a few times up-thread, favoritism/sloping already exists to maximize those leagues to make the field, now we'll maintain a vague selection process + dole out automatic qualifiers on top of it.
G5 teams don't get scheduled that much by the P4 teams as P4 is afraid of a loss and would dilute the schedule strength. G5 teams don't have the money like the P4. Yet the P4 fans would bash the G5 as not playing a hard enough schedule. ACC and Big 12 don't have the resources of the Big 10 or SEC and aren't going to be scheduled by them that much in the future. Hmmm, how ironic.
This is why I want a formula to select teams. If G5 teams run the table because of cake walk schedules, the P2 conferences will be forced to schedule them to avoid losing playoff spots to them. The selection committee can write it off as a cakewalk schedule and convince the public that they don’t deserve a spot.
They won’t be forced to schedule them, G5 will get capped at 1 bid. They aren’t playing the same game as the P4.
Hard to force a schedule when you legit have to pay 6/7 figures for a ritual sacrifice game
I think they will push harder for more control of the cfp bc this year we saw it almost be very different. The ACC got two in pretty easily, Miami would've been in if not for their loss at Syracuse. The Big 12 also had some fluky stuff happen. If KU doesn't go on the warpath, BYU, ISU and Colorado all would've been in the mix. Indiana having their run was good for the b1g but it mucked things up for the SEC teams.
The Big 12 just didn't have teams do what they needed to do this year or it would've been a multi bid league. The teams that get easy schedules, have to take advantage. The Big 12's teams didn't. If they had, it would've stolen another bid from one of those leagues.
The people who control things can obviously manipulate the process but this year it seemed like teams were rewarded for winning. The b1g and SEC were rewarded more but SMU got a bid for just taking care of business(ISU and BYU were in the mix for a long time). I think that made the SEC/B1G a bit nervous and want to be a bit more aggressive about auto bids. They dont' want to be vulnerable to those teams with an easy schedule.
The Big 12 just didn't have teams do what they needed to do this year or it would've been a multi bid league. The teams that get easy schedules, have to take advantage. The Big 12's teams didn't. If they had, it would've stolen another bid from one of those leagues.
The people who control things can obviously manipulate the process but this year it seemed like teams were rewarded for winning. The b1g and SEC were rewarded more but SMU got a bid for just taking care of business(ISU and BYU were in the mix for a long time). I think that made the SEC/B1G a bit nervous and want to be a bit more aggressive about auto bids. They dont' want to be vulnerable to those teams with an easy schedule.
If there is a BCS style formula, there’d be no “cap”. If multiple G5 teams get ranked in the top 16, they’d get in. There’s no special rules for the Big10 and SEC and how they “deserve” a bid. If the numbers say your a top 16 team, you’re in.
Then, the best way the P4 conferences prevent multiple G5 bids is to beat them and knock them out early.
They make 7 figures off that extra home game. Why shouldn’t they pay their opponents to sacrifice a home game? They could always schedule a home and home to not pay those amounts.
I love the enthusiasm but regardless of if it’s spoken or build in, there will never be 2 G5 teams and their really shouldn’t be
If the Big XII gets two auto-bids, I support it.
ISU would have been in last year.
Let's Go State!
ISU would have been in last year.
Let's Go State!
Auto bids are dumb. One auto bid for conference champions is fine, especially since they’d more than likely be in anyways. Two at most per power conference.
The goal should be to have the best teams in. Conference affiliation shouldn’t matter. If your conference is that good, they’ll get those teams in anyways.
The goal should be to have the best teams in. Conference affiliation shouldn’t matter. If your conference is that good, they’ll get those teams in anyways.
Way to feed into the Big 12 is G5 on steroids or G5+.
That’s what’s some of media and P2 country feel anyway.
It undercuts the value of individual games, but it makes a lot more games matter down the stretch. You might have 25-30 teams still in the playoff hunt in week 9 and beyond. With a 4 or 8 team playoff most games were completely meaningless the last 1/4 of the season.
