ISU also had 2 wins against teams with a winning record (Iowa, OSU) OSU was more of a quality win than RU had, but you can argue that the team's head really wasn't in the game.
So your point is kinda lost on me.
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ISU also had 2 wins against teams with a winning record (Iowa, OSU) OSU was more of a quality win than RU had, but you can argue that the team's head really wasn't in the game.
So your point is kinda lost on me.
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Rutgers plays in the Big East, Iowa State plays in the Big 12. Does that help?
Lame argument. OSU was playing great and up 24-7 until **** hit the fan. I call this the "**** Vitale" excuse due to how much that old fool posted about it on Twitter.
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Yeah it's pretty sad that people are saying "the only reason OSU lost was because of that plane crash" Complete ********. I doubt that any of their football players knew any of the coaches of the girls basketball team.
Based on what? It seems like you forgot or ignorant of the fact that OSU was up 24-7 in the 3rd quarter....
I'm not trying to dilute the win, but, based on experience, these types of things can affect the team. When LeGrand had his injury, Rutgers ended the season 0-6 following that game. I hate to blame the performance of the team on that, because we had an inept OC that year, but it's something that can't be quantified.
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OSU didn't lose the game because of the plane crash, they lost the game because we came to play and they thought we were going to be a pushover.
If you not trying to "dilute" our win over the #2 team in the country what are you trying to do?
You can argue that these two teams are even talent wise but it's a losing battle for you to try to argue quality wins and losses.
There are GREAT games, and there are CLOSE games. OKSt./ISU was a close game - neither team played anywhere near their best. OKSt. coughed up a big lead with 5 TOs, and how many dropped passes did the Cyclones have? Nine? Not to mention the Pick 6...
Our new NJ friend has a point...OKSt. didn't play a game like that all year. Maybe that's why they didn't make the NCG - not so much because they lost to ISU, but the WAY they lost.
That takes nothing away from Iowa State and its huge win. But I thought they played MUCH better at TTU and KSU than they did against OKSt.
Based on experience? What does seeing a friend and teammate get paralyzed right in front of you while playing an extremely violent sport which requires a certain degree of recklessness have to do with what happened at Oklahoma State?
Just the emotional aspect of a tragic accident that hits close to home and reminds us of our mortality. Not comparing the two in any other way than that.
If you read on the Oklahoma State board, they knew that their defense was vulnerable. However, they also recognized that we outplayed them. There was something in the air on that night. Even though we were down 24-7 in the 3rd Q, we all knew that the game wasn't over (and we certainly know what it feels like to be in games that are over in the 3rd Q).
This will be close. When was the last ISU bowl game that wasn't? (rhetorical) All the one's I've been two have been nail biters since 2000.
Hey ******. Were you there? If that wasn't a GREAT game, then there has never been a "great" game. I was there. I can ASSURE you, that short of winning the NC, not many other games ISU or any team played could have been greater. I may live another 50 years and never see another game that GREAT. We pretty much just put the definition in the dictionary of how to storm a field...you think that kind of thing just happens? Probably stormed it 100 times over the years, but never like that. Did either team play its "best" game...maybe not, but that in no way means it was not a "great game." Perhaps you enjoyed the Vanderbilt vs Alabama thriller more?
OSU for the season averages:
Rushing: 171
Passing: 386
Total Off: 557
OSU stats for the ISU game
Rushing: 60
Passing: 476
Total Off: 536
The stats show that OSU offense did in fact have an "off" game. They were 21 yds off their average total.
Their defense did perform poorer than average since they allow on avg 446 yds/game and surprisingly ISU gained 568yds. However ISU only scored 24pts in regulation which is in line with what OSU gives up per game, 26 on average.
So it looks like OSU produced close to what they do on average yardage wise against ISU and points allowed on defense.
OSU's offense vs. KSU
Rushing: 73
Passing: 502
Total Off: 575
OSU's defense also gave up nearly double of their avg points allowed. So it looked like OSU's defense clearly under performed but OSU was still able to win. Weeden threw 2int's as well.
OSU's offense vs OU
Rushing: 278
Passing: 217
Total Off: 495
OSU performed below their avg by 62 yds but defense played very well and held OU well below their scoring average and exceeded their points allowed avg by over 2 TD's.
It looks like OSU performed well offensively against KSU inspite of 4 TO's and poor defense and still won. Their offense under performed against OU but the defense picked up the slack and put up better then their season averages and won.
Against ISU, OSU performed right around their averages for both Off and Def and lost. Looking at the KSU game stats you could say that was really their off game but yet still won. Public perception would say that their heads weren't in the game for ISU but where were their heads against KSU? Against ISU they had -3 TO margin while against KSU they had -2 but they defensively performed worse than their average vs KSU.
OU performed well below their averages offensively and defensively against OSU. Why isn't anyone asking about where their heads are at with the B12 title on the line and BCS game? Because of public perception. ISU is viewed as being bad so if ISU won then OSU had had an off night but the stats showed they did not. ISU won because they made the plays necessary to win down the line and OSU did not.
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