We get it. You don't like Walden.
If he "wasnt very good", as you suggest, he wouldn't have had a winning record in his third season despite no administration support and terrible facilities. It took McCarney six years to get a winning record with much better admin support and facilities.
I really don't get the Troy Davis outrage either. It's not like running him worked any miracles for McCarney. It was a different era; freshman often didn't get that much action.
Walden had his faults. He wasn't tactful, particularly when kissing donor arse, and that was/is something that can bring a lot of grief to a program, and it did for Walden. But I don't get dogging his coaching skills. He was ok.
It does boggle my mind that he didn't take the ASU offer. Maybe he thought Jischke would put some money into football after Eaton left.
RIP Coach.
To be fair, running Troy Davis wasn't going to address the fact that the ISU defense could stop absolutely nobody - which is why Davis was twice a 2000-yard rusher for teams that barely won any games.
Davis was a freshman and we had Calvin Branch. Its not like ISU was winning games when Davis was rushing for those numbers. Was Troy Davis as a freshman going to lead ISU to more success than he did his other 2 years? Branch was arguably the best tailback in the Big 8. Dan's first few years were just as bad as any Walden had. Absolutely nobody could have got the job done at ISU in the 80s. Bill Snyder would have failed too.
The point was I was replying to the comment that Walden "Maximized what he had" When he had arguably the best running back in college football not just the Big 8 sitting on the bench.
As far as Calvin Branch being so great, in 3 years at ISU he didnt even break 1000 yards rushing total in those 3 years. Barely broke 1000 total yards when including receptions etc. He was maybe the best running back in the WAC after he left Iowa State, but best in the Big 8 while at ISU, is a bit of a stretch.
And yeah you are right I dont like Walden, really the only coach I like less would be Chizik.
Walden was a terrible coach, he was the cheap hire, because he was bad, and refused to accept that he was hired at a place that didnt care about athletics because he was bad and cheap to go along with the lack of athletic support. The guy had 3 winning seasons in 17, and of those 3 only 1 was more than 1 game above .500. That is not good, that is not ok, that is bad.
This below is bad, really bad, and with the so called "best running back in the Big 8" starting and arguably the best running back in CFB on the bench. Yep our defense sucked, because our head coach sucked and surrounded himself with terrible coaches and coordinators.
Did he have a ****** situation, yep. Did the University help at all, nope. But the point is, he was hired because he was not good, because the University was looking for the cheap hire, because they didnt want to support the program. So we got what we paid for a mediocre at best coach that could not accept that he was as much of the problem as anything. And as soon as he threw in the towel, drug ISU through the mud and cried that nothing was his fault. Because in his own mind he was the greatest coach in the history of the sport, so it couldnt have been anything do do with him.
Its funny though. You all say we didnt support the program, but the ISU Center was still pretty new in the 80s (JTS was barely a decade old when Walden came), facilities were right in line with most, I would say at least in the 80s, By the mid 90s we had started to fall behind on facilities, because of many years of no upgrades, and unless you expected the University to buy players under the table, not much else was going to help.
As far as freshmen not playing in that era, heres a few that might want a word:
Jamal Lewis
Jamelle Holieway
Tommy Hodson
Herschel Walker
Ron Dayne
Tony Dorsett
Marshall Faulk
Just to name a few....