RIP Coach Jim Walden

I think it was a mixed bag of problems. We had an AD that simply didn't care enough to invest in the program what it needed, and Criner did Criner things and really put ISU in a hole, so many of Walden's complaints and excuses were valid. And perhaps had Walden coached ISU 10 years later he would have been given more leeway because he did get ISU to mediocre and would have taken ISU to some low-tier bowl games as a result, much like McCarney did... but at the same time he wasn't some savior of ISU football, either. The big difference between Walden and McCarney is while Walden was all too willing to lay the blame of his shortcomings on the university he was coaching at (and, as I said, those complaints aren't entirely wrong), McCarney instead took responsibility for his own shortcomings. For McCarney, while there was a lot of negative feelings toward him in the mid-late 2000s because he failed to meet expectations after he himself raised the bar of success (especially looking at 2005 and 2006), 20 years later he's looked at much kinder. And while time and perspective helped shift the opinion on Walden as well, I don't think he'll ever be looked at as kindly as McCarney is.

ISU administration started to give a damn when Mac got here. Right away construction of the Jacobsen Building began when Mac started.
 
ISU administration started to give a damn when Mac got here. Right away construction of the Jacobsen Building began when Mac started.
Gene Smith was bright enough to know what needed to be done. Mac could have held out and taken a much better job than ISU. He was a top tier assistant. It just shows you the kind of person Mac is and how much he loved being in Iowa. He could have inevitably taken over that Wisconsin program and I believe he would have kept it rolling. The coolest thing about him was that he wanted to be in Ames. He probably could have held out and taken the job in Iowa City too.
 
Gene Smith was bright enough to know what needed to be done. Mac could have held out and taken a much better job than ISU. He was a top tier assistant. It just shows you the kind of person Mac is and how much he loved being in Iowa. He could have inevitably taken over that Wisconsin program and I believe he would have kept it rolling. The coolest thing about him was that he wanted to be in Ames. He probably could have held out and taken the job in Iowa City too.
Danny Mac was frankly lucky to have kept the ISU job when shortly after he was hired, it was revealed he had some domestic issues that would have precluded him from ever being hired as Iowa’s HC.
 
We get it. You don't like Walden.

If he "wasnt very good", as you suggest, he wouldn't have had a winning record in his third season despite no administration support and terrible facilities. It took McCarney six years to get a winning record with much better admin support and facilities.

I really don't get the Troy Davis outrage either. It's not like running him worked any miracles for McCarney. It was a different era; freshman often didn't get that much action.

Walden had his faults. He wasn't tactful, particularly when kissing donor arse, and that was/is something that can bring a lot of grief to a program, and it did for Walden. But I don't get dogging his coaching skills. He was ok.

It does boggle my mind that he didn't take the ASU offer. Maybe he thought Jischke would put some money into football after Eaton left.

RIP Coach.

To be fair, running Troy Davis wasn't going to address the fact that the ISU defense could stop absolutely nobody - which is why Davis was twice a 2000-yard rusher for teams that barely won any games.

Davis was a freshman and we had Calvin Branch. Its not like ISU was winning games when Davis was rushing for those numbers. Was Troy Davis as a freshman going to lead ISU to more success than he did his other 2 years? Branch was arguably the best tailback in the Big 8. Dan's first few years were just as bad as any Walden had. Absolutely nobody could have got the job done at ISU in the 80s. Bill Snyder would have failed too.
The point was I was replying to the comment that Walden "Maximized what he had" When he had arguably the best running back in college football not just the Big 8 sitting on the bench.

As far as Calvin Branch being so great, in 3 years at ISU he didnt even break 1000 yards rushing total in those 3 years. Barely broke 1000 total yards when including receptions etc. He was maybe the best running back in the WAC after he left Iowa State, but best in the Big 8 while at ISU, is a bit of a stretch.

And yeah you are right I dont like Walden, really the only coach I like less would be Chizik.

Walden was a terrible coach, he was the cheap hire, because he was bad, and refused to accept that he was hired at a place that didnt care about athletics because he was bad and cheap to go along with the lack of athletic support. The guy had 3 winning seasons in 17, and of those 3 only 1 was more than 1 game above .500. That is not good, that is not ok, that is bad.

This below is bad, really bad, and with the so called "best running back in the Big 8" starting and arguably the best running back in CFB on the bench. Yep our defense sucked, because our head coach sucked and surrounded himself with terrible coaches and coordinators.

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Did he have a ****** situation, yep. Did the University help at all, nope. But the point is, he was hired because he was not good, because the University was looking for the cheap hire, because they didnt want to support the program. So we got what we paid for a mediocre at best coach that could not accept that he was as much of the problem as anything. And as soon as he threw in the towel, drug ISU through the mud and cried that nothing was his fault. Because in his own mind he was the greatest coach in the history of the sport, so it couldnt have been anything do do with him.

Its funny though. You all say we didnt support the program, but the ISU Center was still pretty new in the 80s (JTS was barely a decade old when Walden came), facilities were right in line with most, I would say at least in the 80s, By the mid 90s we had started to fall behind on facilities, because of many years of no upgrades, and unless you expected the University to buy players under the table, not much else was going to help.

As far as freshmen not playing in that era, heres a few that might want a word:
Jamal Lewis
Jamelle Holieway
Tommy Hodson
Herschel Walker
Ron Dayne
Tony Dorsett
Marshall Faulk
Just to name a few....
 
Duncan did not give two ***** for Iowa State. He was terrible! He placed all his marbles on beating Iowa, knowing it would win fans.
Duncan was the start of the decline, Criner completed it.
Walden was a deer walking across an interstate. He had an assistant that recruited Florida well. I remember one night in a local bar, said assistant commented on Davis was a premier back - but it would take many people to keep him eligible. His freshman year he wasn’t even close, with the direction the staff was given - he had to sit.
You all probably heard of his testing at the draft.
 
Walden was effectively tasked from day one with rowing upriver in a cardboard boat, only the NCAA took away one oar (Criner), then the university took away the other (Lester).

Never beat Iowa, but had the game in doubt in the 4th quarter several times, which was far better than the 45-point loss average of his predecessor. And sure, for every ranked win there was an equally stupefying loss -- which was not a unique occurrence among ISU coaches before or after.

Nebraska, never ranked lower than 11th
Oklahoma, ranked every year
Colorado, ranked 6/8 years (and at the height of the McCartney era)
Kansas, who even cracked the rankings and went to a bowl game under Mason
The very beginning of the K-State upward push with Snyder
Oklahoma State with the Sanders/Gundy/Dykes trio (first 2 years)
...and of course, Iowa

If nothing else, at least it was entertaining.
I was at the '93 Iowa game. We were down 31-7 going into the 4th, cut it to 31-28 and recovered an onside kick with over a minute left...and then fumbled the ball on the first play. Great game, horrible ending.
 
Davis was a freshman and we had Calvin Branch. Its not like ISU was winning games when Davis was rushing for those numbers. Was Troy Davis as a freshman going to lead ISU to more success than he did his other 2 years? Branch was arguably the best tailback in the Big 8. Dan's first few years were just as bad as any Walden had. Absolutely nobody could have got the job done at ISU in the 80s. Bill Snyder would have failed too.

ISU had 3 winning seasons in the 80s which would have been 3 bowl games in 2000 and beyond. Went 5-6 in two others and 5-5-1.

Record wise the 90s was the worst decade of ISU football and it's not particularly close.
 
I was at the '93 Iowa game. We were down 31-7 going into the 4th, cut it to 31-28 and recovered an onside kick with over a minute left...and then fumbled the ball on the first play. Great game, horrible ending.

How many ISU football games have gone something like this?

They have to have some sort of record, right?