Rhoads/FB Projects

The new football training complex is listed on the facilities planning spreadsheet as being in the pre-design (fundraising?) mode. Cy8 needs to go away because this is all going to happen regardless of how dense he is.
 
I realize that the details on this haven't been released and thats why it's not on the front page of cyclones.com or this forum, but man this is friggin' huge if it is true!

I do not get the mentality of the naysayers on this. Jack Trice improvements have come so slowly over the last 16 years that it's almost like the frog in the pan of water analogy. The press box, then the jake, then the lights and scoreboard (now obsolete), then nothing for awhile. Several years later then the concourse gets widened and suites are added. But all during that time the college football arms race was ramping up like the cold war in the 1950s and our peer facilities started to improve greatly (beyond just stadium seats, weight & training rooms etc).

I have to ask naysayers... DO YOU WANT ISU TO BE COMPETITIVE IN THE FUTURE? HAVE YOU EVER BEEN TO OTHER D-I/BCS CONFERENCE STADIUMS? HAVE YOU EVER HAD VISION IN YOUR LIFE?

Ya know, I see empty seats in Hilton on TV a lot over the last half decade for men's b-ball games. Perhaps our shrine should have only been constructed to seat 11,000?
 
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I hope they do it right and make the south end zone facade brick and stone with black gates....It would look sweet coming into town on University Blvd.
 
I see no reason to add more seats to JTS, we can't even fill up what we have now and the new endzone would add a lot more seats that we would NOT be able to fill up.
when you take the bleacher seats and the hillside on south end you may be suprised on how full it looks
 
I hope they do it right and make the south end zone facade brick and stone with black gates....It would look sweet coming into town on University Blvd.

I hope for a nice facade as well but I doubt they go brick. Not because it wouldn't look great but just because nothing else in the complex is brick at all. I agree with you on the premise though.
 
Some of the people who sit in the upper deck will move to the shoe and it will make the upper deck look even more empty. Recruits will see it and see that we do don't have a good fan base and not want to come to ISU. I am done for the night.
Or more people will move from the other hills to make the place look to capacity?
 
Great news, too bad we have a bunch of losers with negative attitudes on this board.
 
With a bowled in south endzone, the only incentive to sit on the north hillsides would be to let your young kids run around. Sight lines from the corners are horrible, sitting/standing on the hill is uncomfortable, and you won't be able to see the new videoboard which will be almost straight over your head. I don't have a problem with JTS maintaining a "kid friendly" seating area in the hillsides. It will probably be better for everyone to put those kids in one/two areas rather than four, and to seperate the young kids from the drunk, obnoxious ISU students (not saying I don't love your contribution to the competitive atmosphere, or that there aren't plenty of drunk obnoxious adults, but I'm playing the odds when I say that I wouldn't want my young kids sitting next to you).
 
I hope they do it right and make the south end zone facade brick and stone with black gates....It would look sweet coming into town on University Blvd.


I see what you are saying here, but I don't know how good brick would look with everything else having the concrete look.....if that makes sense. Just my opinion.

And I see someone mentioned that.
 
I see what you are saying here, but I don't know how good brick would look with everything else having the concrete look.....if that makes sense. Just my opinion.

I get what everyone is saying, but the scope of this project is so big I think it would look very nice and class up the stadium. I believe a brick and stone facade on the inner ring wall of the stadium would look nice too, instead of the red painted concrete.....just a thought.....It's only money!
 
I see no reason to add more seats to JTS, we can't even fill up what we have now and the new endzone would add a lot more seats that we would NOT be able to fill up.
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Added seating might help control cost increases in the future for all fans, if not, it could certainly provide more seats at affordable prices. If more fans can handle the lower prices, I imagine it would increase average attendance from year to year, plus there are a couple of games every year that would be sell-outs or close to it.

Additional seating could also make it more attractive to corp. and businesses to buy blocks of tix for certain games, plus it would give us the ability to give tix to youth and charity org. without sacrificing premium seating to reg. fans.:yes:

Bottom line, we can't sell tix for seats that aren't there.
 
and to seperate the young kids from the drunk, obnoxious ISU students (not saying I don't love your contribution to the competitive atmosphere, or that there aren't plenty of drunk obnoxious adults, but I'm playing the odds when I say that I wouldn't want my young kids sitting next to you)

There was a game when I was a sophomore (2004) where a guy had brought his 5 year old daughter into the student section. By the end of the 1st quarter, he was just holding his hands over her ears and was yelling at students to quit swearing.

I just remember thinking "why in the hell would you EVER bring your 5 old into a college football student section?" That's just bad parenting, IMO. It's like bringing your 5 year old into an R rated movie or a bar or something like that.
 
I get what everyone is saying, but the scope of this project is so big I think it would look very nice and class up the stadium. I believe a brick and stone facade on the inner ring wall of the stadium would look nice too, instead of the red painted concrete.....just a thought.....It's only money!



I definitely don't care for the concrete being painted red.

I will say this, I use this picture as a background on my computer at work and the east and west exteriors look much better now then it does in this wallpaper. With those walls behind the concessions it gives it a much more closed off feeling.
 
Michigan State did a nice renovation to their stadium, and it was primarily concrete before.....

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It can't be too hard to put a brick facade on jts, I'm sure we can good a good deal from Denny A.