Called Moxie to get a consultation and was told my electric company (Consumers Energy Coop) doesn't participate in electric buyback/net metering (or whatever it's called) 
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That sucks. Not worth it then.Called Moxie to get a consultation and was told my electric company (Consumers Energy Coop) doesn't participate in electric buyback/net metering (or whatever it's called)
Called Moxie to get a consultation and was told my electric company (Consumers Energy Coop) doesn't participate in electric buyback/net metering (or whatever it's called)
That's a serious bummer. I thought they had to, but Co-Ops may be different.
Also, be careful with Moxie, they had got way upside-down on pre-payments and supply chain, and were struggling mightily back in the spring. There are some online news stories about it and some p!ssed off customers. IDK where they are at now, maybe they have it figured out.
Looks like you dodged a bullet with Moxie. I used them and it looks like I was one of the few completed installs in 2021. I had to contact Enphase and have them change which company performs maintenance on my system to ECG. I still love my system even though Moxie shut down.
https://www.press-citizen.com/story...the-north-liberty-company-closes/69708266007/
https://www.press-citizen.com/story...the-north-liberty-company-closes/69708266007/
I've had mine installed since Sept 15th but there is so much red tape with Alliant, Reviews and Supplemental Reviews. We have not been able to bring it online yet, super frustrating.
I guess Alliant is claiming that this area of the grid is saturated with Solar and so it takes them longer to work out the details, IDK, I just want to light this candle.
I guess Alliant is claiming that this area of the grid is saturated with Solar and so it takes them longer to work out the details, IDK, I just want to light this candle.
Sounds like a common sense holdout. Increasingly rare these daysCalled Moxie to get a consultation and was told my electric company (Consumers Energy Coop) doesn't participate in electric buyback/net metering (or whatever it's called)
Very common for it to take forever. Our’s was 3 months before approval. My Dad’s was 5 months
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Yeah I had similar - was supposed to take 30 days max for the final approval - they had already done multiple other approval of different things along the way. But ended up being closer to 60. Did finally go online officially on Thanksgiving day. So its making power, yay.
Just got a quote for a 17K system for $60K in Iowa. Payoff including credit in 23 years if I pay cash up front, negative payoff over 25 years if I finance. Incredibly overpriced. That's if it performs as advertised which I doubt.
I briefly checked into solar for our home. When I told the company we were on REC, they said REC didn't pay back or pay back enough to justify solar installation. Does anyone have the same experience? What's with REC on this?
I think the RECs don't have to do the net metering if they don't want to in Iowa. The charitable explanation is most of them are small enough that it would be really tough to manage - not enough people or experience in house. Less charitably, they tend to be pretty well connected politically.
Essentially, if you are on REC, it's just if you want to be greener. Or maybe if you have outbuildings not connected to the grid. I do see a lot of farms with big arrays.
Govt programs make panels more economical. Can have a 3-7 year payback with the programs they have even with 10 cent REC rates. RECs got a lot of heat about net metering so most do some now. Mine does 15 minute metering. Better than nothing but does hurt overall.
Most RECs have been doing the invest in solar thing where you pony in so many dollars to be part of the solar farm they build if you want to have solar electricity, not quite sure how it works wasn't that interested in it.
17kW system is REALLY large - my house and 2 detached garages is only 7kW. It was about $25k (not including batteries and some panel work required). Times that by 2.5x and add some inflation, and $60k is not crazy.
17kW system size is crazy though. You run a grow op in the basement? Heat the entire house with toasters?
I was quoted ~$30k for a 20k setup for my house in 2021 before inflation hit. That was the size they said I needed based on 9 months of electric bills.
Oh solar is a great idea.
If you don't consider the pollution from manufacturing them in China.
Or all the fossil fuels used in mining the copper. Or the child slavery to mine the cobalt. Oh and at least a dozen more minerals.
Then there's the extra stress that's placed on conventional power plants from constantly going on and and off line because of the way solar cycles daily. I'm sure the shortened lifespan this produces isn't a big deal.
When all these panels reach the end of their life cycle, there will probably be a more efficient way to recycle them. Anything would be better than the current system that uses all the energy to recover *one* component only. I mean the politicians legislated it so it's gonna happen, right? Maybe we could put them in storage till the advent of free bubble up.
Cool story bro. I’ll take my $12 electric bill each month instead. Thanks though
I think his comments are worth considering. The government is making this stuff affordable because it is supposed to be better for the environment. If that’s not true, I think that’s of interest.
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