Redskins Yes or no

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clonedude

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I haven't read the entire thread, but what about the Washington Lobbyists? Or the Washington Gridlock?

Seriously though, I hope they change it to the Washington Redtails. I think that would be sweet, and you could have some cool logos and merchandise too.
 
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dualthreat

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I used to think they should change it. Then I learned the name was actually conceived by a Native American coach in the organization and was meant to honor the courage and bravery of his ancestors. Since then I've wavered. There really are two sides to every story.

It's much more about angry white people than native Americans. The Washington post survey found 9 of 10 NA didn't have a problem with the name whatsoever.
 

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It's much more about angry white people than native Americans. The Washington post survey found 9 of 10 NA didn't have a problem with the name whatsoever.

Not angry about this, but I think 1 in 10 NA being unhappy with the name is enough to warrant a change.
 

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I like the historical and patriotic backdrop to the Navajo Nation's suggestion of "Washington Code Talkers"

But it just doesn't sound right.
 

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love it when people are more offended than the people it’s supposed to offend. Glad the Notre Dame fighting Irish will not change their name even though that is a huge Irish stereotype. Washington can juat change it to Washington skins
 

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I don't typically like these debates, I feel most (not all) Native Americans are represented in a positive manner when used as nicknames, many of those than arent positive have been altered but this is shouldn't really be a debate. It's not comparable to things like Aztecs, Seminoles etc even Braves and Indians are ok as names if they don't have questionable mascots (see Chief Wahoo)...I mean who even refers to Native people as redskins? If its not appropriate to use in everyday conversation, it shouldn't be acceptable to use as a team mascot.
I'm surprised that Indians isn't one which would be offensive, considering they were given that name by an ignorant white man looking for India. It is however in the lexicon, used to represent a general term for all Natives.
 

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I'm surprised that Indians isn't one which would be offensive, considering they were given that name by an ignorant white man looking for India.

I’ve saw a couple woke types refer to the group as American Indians recently. Don’t really know the story behind that. Maybe a broader term to allow the various tribes heritages to be larger?
 

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I'll add this, I love nicknames or mascots that embrace the local culture. Sooners, Cornhuskers, Bison, Mountaineers, Hurricanes, Packers, even Cyclones.

I have no idea what affiliation DC has to redskins. Enlighten me if there is one.
Er, well, you see, long before Europeans arrived on this continent, Native American tribes could be found everywhere, even at the site that DC now sits. I think it was Powhatan territory?
 
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I’ve saw a couple woke types refer to the group as American Indians recently. Don’t really know the story behind that. Maybe a broader term to allow the various tribes heritages to be larger?
Ya, I'm white as ****. I can't really tell you what the general population of Natives would say. I think Natives is most appropriate as a change for Indians as far as sensitivity goes.
 

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Odd thought, but I was wondering what DC will be called if statehood passes. Apparently the current bill will change the name to "State of Washington, Douglass Commonwealth" in honor of Fredrick Douglass. Though previous proposals would have made the name New Columbia.

I was just thinking, if DC becomes a state with a different name, how would the teams change their names to reflect it?