I love the go to excuse of 'a handler emerged late'. Tell us who Juiston and Morrows 'handler' are and how they changed their minds at the last moment. More fictious $ to ease your mind that they just choose another program?
RECRUITING: Morrow to Marquette
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To all the "another miss by Prohm" crowd. What's your end game?
As others have said the transfer world has changed drastically since Fred built his first team that way. We are now competing with blue bloods for transfers. I'll give Prohm credit for still getting in there and mixing it up with other schools for the top recruits.
As others have said the transfer world has changed drastically since Fred built his first team that way. We are now competing with blue bloods for transfers. I'll give Prohm credit for still getting in there and mixing it up with other schools for the top recruits.
Hah....they chose programs that haven't been to the dance in how long? They chose programs that don't even get much for televised game play.
Well, we did earn a 3 seed. Considering our best seeds are 2, 2, 3, 3 and 4, I'd like to think he was a nice addition for our tied for 3rd best seed in school history.
No one is saying Morrow got paid. Marquette isn't UNLV. Edwards wanted to be a PG so he chose LSU.
Juiston's handler is his AAU coach. As his JC coach said, Juiston went where he was directed by his AAU coach. Don't know why he couldn't make his own decision. That same AAU coached worked with a current UNLV coach when he was at UConn, he sent a lot of players to that program. Of course we all know what happened with UConn, they were cheating like crazy for years. Finally got busted for it.
Agree. I'm disappointed about losing Morrow, but Race is still the bigger fish for 18-19 and forward. Obviously no guarantee we land him either, but there's no reason to be pessimistic about missing on him as well.
Some of you need to be reminded of what it means to be a Cyclone fan. Every player who commits to ISU is the next Niang or Grayer. And the players who choose another school over ISU, well they're over-rated and we don't want them anyway.
I'm done banging on prohm for recruiting. Ultimately it's his job to put NCAA tournament teams on the court. It will be a lot more difficult for next season certainly without the jucos and grad transfers.
I was very critical of prohm during the season and I have a lot of questions about how he'll do going forward. But he proved me wrong and he deserves the benefit of the doubt going forward.
As far as giving him credit for trying hard and mixing it up... I give him credit for results. He should be doing everything in his power to put the best team on the floor. i don't give people credit for doing the things they are supposed to do.
Disappointed the Morrow didn't come to ISU, but again, ISU needs their players to want to come here...whether it is an AAU giving guidance, playing style, minutes, etc., many players determine that ISU is not a good fit for them...and they move on. We are not Kentucky or North Carolina, or Kansas...we have to work hard for every one.
As I have watched this play out over the past couple of years, I think that Coach Prohm has a fairly narrow final cut line...he wants players that fit into his style of play...maybe the visits allow a player (and Coach Prohm) to see that and they make the decision to move on to another team. Moving on to the next one...
As I have watched this play out over the past couple of years, I think that Coach Prohm has a fairly narrow final cut line...he wants players that fit into his style of play...maybe the visits allow a player (and Coach Prohm) to see that and they make the decision to move on to another team. Moving on to the next one...
The right way!
Great plan, but you'll always have immediate needs and be better if you can recruit well in the spring and/or transfers. Not to mention the increase in losses in the transition.
Was there any ever indication that we were favored over Marquette? I mean, it's a tough miss, but it seems like he would have told us that he was coming here the way some people are reacting to this
I think it is easier to recruit grad transfers when you have a proven nucleus good players to join. We don't have a top 25 team coming back this year like we have for the last 3-4 years.
They may not be an AP top 25 team but they're number one in my heart, where it really matters.
If the coaching staff would like to list me as a reference for recruits, I'd be happy to give a positive review.
You have to have the proven core coming back but also a need/opening in the starting line-up. It is obviously a balance that is hard to find.
I agree to a point...grad transfers typically have just 1 year of eligibility left...thus, are very choosy about where they want to go to maximize their remaining time. But it is still a 2 way street in that they want to be at the school and the coach wants them to be at their school. Having a top 25 team certainly helps generate excitement for a prospect, but they still have to fit in.
They may not start out in the top 25, but the past 2 years they have finished in the top 25...isn't that what matters? Okay...every ISU team is number one in my heart.
I think when prohm was hired, of course he was going to say he was going to recruit transers/jucos, etc. no need to make a big change on day 1.
but i think he's really going to be a high school guy longer term, and that will be the majority of our recruiting.
but i think he's really going to be a high school guy longer term, and that will be the majority of our recruiting.
I feel like many are penalizing the staff for targeting top transfers. We were never the favorite (almost could say all were long shots) in the recruitment of top grad transfer guards/wings Alstork, Egor, Crawford, and Brown. It felt like we had a decent shot at Brown because he visited Ames and things went well, but ultimately I never got the feeling we would be able to pry him off the West Coast and away from 2 teams that were in the Final Four this past year.
Juiston was a deal that was out of our control. It was certainly unfortunate as he would of had an immediate impact next year, but how things played out was no fault of the staff. I certainly think you can write this one off as an anomaly.
I never was really sure if Darryl Edwards was a for sure take. A good but not great JuCo guard is always a risky endeavor. I was never sold on him and how he would fit in with the current roster so I wasn't really disappointed to see him head elsewhere.
Morrow is certainly frustrating because it felt like it was 50/50 and he would of been a huge front court boost as someone who has already produced at the Power 5 level. Competing against Marquette and Xavier for his services was stiff competition for the staff. However, we essentially shot 50% on similar targets as they were able to pull Shayok who was also being courted by Baylor and Marquette.
I guess my point is you have to look at each case individually. Morrow would be the one that I'm disappointed about this Spring but with that being said, I understand why he would choose Marquette. I'm hopeful they can land one more sit out player that we can look forward to in 2018/2019.
Juiston was a deal that was out of our control. It was certainly unfortunate as he would of had an immediate impact next year, but how things played out was no fault of the staff. I certainly think you can write this one off as an anomaly.
I never was really sure if Darryl Edwards was a for sure take. A good but not great JuCo guard is always a risky endeavor. I was never sold on him and how he would fit in with the current roster so I wasn't really disappointed to see him head elsewhere.
Morrow is certainly frustrating because it felt like it was 50/50 and he would of been a huge front court boost as someone who has already produced at the Power 5 level. Competing against Marquette and Xavier for his services was stiff competition for the staff. However, we essentially shot 50% on similar targets as they were able to pull Shayok who was also being courted by Baylor and Marquette.
I guess my point is you have to look at each case individually. Morrow would be the one that I'm disappointed about this Spring but with that being said, I understand why he would choose Marquette. I'm hopeful they can land one more sit out player that we can look forward to in 2018/2019.
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Sucks but oh well. I liked him but hopefully Lard and Young pan out. One thing that is annoying. I thought they brought in Robinson because of his Illinois and specifically Chicago connections. What has he done with that? Nothing. Hopefully he can coach up the bigs because that is the other thing he was brought in for I believe.
