Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

Kinch

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The funny thing is some congressman from UWs district campaigned on preventing UW from playing the early game against Rutgers there.
 

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The game was in Tucson.

Game definitely shouldn't have been played with an 11pm start Lubbock time.

I think I've been pretty clear my rant wasn't just at Big10. It's aimed at Presidents and Athletic Directors who emphasize whats best for athlete physical/mental wellbeing. But it's just lip service because the solution from a scheduling standpoint is relatively easy to implement. Just have a general rule:
  1. Kickoff/Tip can't be before 10am local time for each team.
  2. Kickoff/Tip can't be after 9pm local time for each team.
Obviously there could be some exceptions for games in Hawaii. Or if high temps make earlier/later start for some sports critical to athlete safety.
 

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Game definitely shouldn't have been played with an 11pm start Lubbock time.

I think I've been pretty clear my rant wasn't just at Big10. It's aimed at Presidents and Athletic Directors who emphasize whats best for athlete physical/mental wellbeing. But it's just lip service because the solution from a scheduling standpoint is relatively easy to implement. Just have a general rule:
  1. Kickoff/Tip can't be before 10am local time for each team.
  2. Kickoff/Tip can't be after 9pm local time for each team.
Obviously there could be some exceptions for games in Hawaii. Or if high temps make earlier/later start for some sports critical to athlete safety.
I agree with everything you are saying but I think we all know the athletes well being flew the coop when west coast and east coast teams started sharing conferences.
 

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2. Arizona State played Cincinnati just last week. They traveled 3 time zones and played at 9am Arizona time. Does that get the same outrage or nah?
Nice try, B10 Symp/Simp (take your pick).

Big difference flying in to Cincy the day before the game, playing the game and getting home in reasonable early evening hours. As compared to Rutgers playing their game tonight at 11 PM ET and getting back to NJ in the 7AM ET Saturday morning timeframe. Hell, they may be staying in LA tonight after the game as well and fly back to NJ at a reasonable time tomorrow morning.
 

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I agree with everything you are saying but I think we all know the athletes well being flew the coop when west coast and east coast teams started sharing conferences.
Agree having coast-to-coast conferences was a step back. Not so much from a Big10 standpoint, because they could have made it work better with 4 PT teams. The ACC not so much with just 2 PT teams.

But with all major conferences now between 16-18 teams, there should be the flexibility that the TV folks get the time slots they want and kickoff/tip start times don't need to be extreme for athletes or fans.
 

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Nice try, B10 Symp/Simp (take your pick).

Big difference flying in to Cincy the day before the game, playing the game and getting home in reasonable early evening hours. As compared to Rutgers playing their game tonight at 11 PM ET and getting back to NJ in the 7AM ET Saturday morning timeframe. Hell, they may be staying in LA tonight after the game as well and fly back to NJ at a reasonable time tomorrow morning.
So earlier your complaint was centered around body clock issues but now it’s NOT body clock it’s when they get home from traveling?
 
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So earlier your complaint was centered around body clock issues but now it’s NOT body clock it’s when they get home from traveling?
Rutgers also has a bye week the following week so the get back time is no big deal. Maybe they even stay an extra day for the NJ kids to explore LA. They also left on Wednesday so have some extra time to get acclimated. But I know that won’t stop the pearl clutching.
 
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It would be a shame if the big 10 and Sec were named as defendants in a suit. It would be a shame if sankey and the Texas AD were deposed.
 

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I actually think some of the schools are hoping for a lawsuit just to provide clarity on it. Because some schools may feel pressure to split the spending 50/50 and then that would leave them uncompetitive with schools that split the funding 90/10.

But if they have to split it 50/50, then you are only giving $10m to football (less however much goes to men’s basketball and baseball so call it $8m), which sounds like a lot but it really isn’t.

Are Ohio State football players going to be happy splitting up $8m when the payout from the CFP alone is $21m, plus the media deal approaching $100m, plus however many more millions from bowl game payouts and ticket sales and concessions and merchandise and everything else? It’s going to start feeling like the football team is really getting a very small piece, which will probably result in a movement to unionize and expand the cap above the $20m they initially set it at…
It would be a shame if Ohio State players were upset.
 
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It would be a shame if the big 10 and Sec were named as defendants in a suit. It would be a shame if sankey and the Texas AD were deposed.
All 4 power conferences are named together in most of this. It has nothing to do with Texas or commissioners sadly
 

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So earlier your complaint was centered around body clock issues but now it’s NOT body clock it’s when they get home from traveling?
No, made it clear earlier that the 11 PM ET kickoff time was absurd in optimizing ET viewing with an East Coast team and that travel issues back to NJ were bigger deal but the body clock issues are intertwined with that. As suggested earler, schedule another West Coast opponent for this game. A CT team would have been better than effing over a ET team and viewing audience. Even a B10 simp/symp can understand that.
 

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No, made it clear earlier that the 11 PM ET kickoff time was absurd in optimizing ET viewing with an East Coast team and that travel issues back to NJ were bigger deal but the body clock issues are intertwined with that. As suggested earler, schedule another West Coast opponent for this game. A CT team would have been better than effing over a ET team and viewing audience. Even a B10 simp/symp can understand that.
You are very….passionate about this. I will give you that.
 

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Nice try, B10 Symp/Simp (take your pick).

Big difference flying in to Cincy the day before the game, playing the game and getting home in reasonable early evening hours. As compared to Rutgers playing their game tonight at 11 PM ET and getting back to NJ in the 7AM ET Saturday morning timeframe. Hell, they may be staying in LA tonight after the game as well and fly back to NJ at a reasonable time tomorrow morning.
First, you have no idea what their travel plans are. Second, they'll get back on Saturday. What does it matter? It's Saturday.

Man I don't know how the NFL has survived with all these ridiculous cross-country East Coast/West Coast trips teams have to make to play conference games. NFL should be ashamed for making Seattle travel to Atlanta for an in-conference game last week.
 

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First, you have no idea what their travel plans are. Second, they'll get back on Saturday. What does it matter? It's Saturday.

Man I don't know how the NFL has survived with all these cross-country East Coast/West Coast trips teams have to make to play conference games. NFL should be ashamed for making Seattle travel to Atlanta for an in-conference game last week.
You might have a legit point to make here if the NFL ever has a kickoff with one of its ET teams at 11 PM ET.
 

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I still blame Charles O’Bannon. He got this all started.
It started back in the late 1970s with the CFA lawsuit against the NCAA.

But it's not only the TV money. There are some big-money donors who live vicariously through how well a college football team does pulling strings with ADs, basically bribing them into escalating the arms race (and to be fair, there are also generous big-money donors who don't act that way at all). If those big donors to which the ADs are beholden were out of the picture, I think the college presidents and athletic directors could come to a more sane arrangement of conferences and revenue distribution than what we have now.
 

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First, you have no idea what their travel plans are. Second, they'll get back on Saturday. What does it matter? It's Saturday.

Man I don't know how the NFL has survived with all these ridiculous cross-country East Coast/West Coast trips teams have to make to play conference games. NFL should be ashamed for making Seattle travel to Atlanta for an in-conference game last week.
It's not the east/west travel. It's having the kickoff at 11pm ET.