I would bet that this new Pac 6 conference is going to be a better conference than the AAC, Mac and MWC, as they have taken the best teams from the MWC and we took the best teams from the AAC. Does an N. Illinois get a bid over a similar rated Oregon St. or Boise St, i really doubt it. The schools that moved increased their chance to get into the playoffs by making this move, and increased their opportunity to make the playoff by doing so.
Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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Either way the PAC isn’t guaranteed an automatic bid as you claim.
It can be considered a better conference than the rest of the G5’s but it won’t be thought of as a power conference.
If by being in the new Pac conference gives these teams a better chance to get into the playoff, which it will, then its done its job until we find out what is going to happen to the ACC.
Yes, they are not guaranteed a place in the playoff, but a school from this conference is going to get it most years. The B10 and SEC are not guaranteed to get 7/9 teams in the play either, but that is also going to happen.
Yes, they are not guaranteed a place in the playoff, but a school from this conference is going to get it most years. The B10 and SEC are not guaranteed to get 7/9 teams in the play either, but that is also going to happen.
PAC-12 is perfect for this year. Except instead of PAC 12, it is the PAC one-two conference.
Feel bad for the Mountain West schools not going to the PAC 6. They are going through same crap we did. Realignment sucks.
They haven’t been part of the MAC for almost 75 years…
It will be interesting to see who else the PAC adds, and when the ACC ends up getting poached. Mass G5 realignment is probably coming soon.
You're right! I was looking specifically at Western schools that really want to commit to improving their programs and facilities. As I watch this KU v UNLV game, I wonder if UNLV is ready to commit to what it takes to attempt to be where the PAC thinks they should be.
Realignment is going through a “Trickle Down” situation.
The P2 have benefited from the current situation. They’ve enriched themselves and are further than ever from being caught.
The middle groups have either done enough to survive, or they’ve been relegated. Some have ascended enough to maintain and fewer have jumped up, but they are the exception to the masses.
The little guys are shuffling. Some are moving up one level, and some are finding themselves out in the cold. Some think they are better off, but all they’ve done is gotten a fresh coat of paint on the same house.
For what it’s worth, the lower levels of D1 generally aren’t benefitting the same way as the P2.
The P2 have benefited from the current situation. They’ve enriched themselves and are further than ever from being caught.
The middle groups have either done enough to survive, or they’ve been relegated. Some have ascended enough to maintain and fewer have jumped up, but they are the exception to the masses.
The little guys are shuffling. Some are moving up one level, and some are finding themselves out in the cold. Some think they are better off, but all they’ve done is gotten a fresh coat of paint on the same house.
For what it’s worth, the lower levels of D1 generally aren’t benefitting the same way as the P2.
Yeah I have no idea where my head was at, sparty even poached dantonio from there, in my head I just think Ohio and MAC I guess, 100% wrong on my end
Obviously makes sense, but it’s kind weird they weren’t already if it’s them.
Possibly they are holding out hope for ACC implosion, Cal and Stanford, or them to come back outright. Maybe they are trying to get the best of remaining G5 schools, like Memphis and Tulane, but travel would be poor. Following that vein, "best of the G5", they could go all in on that idea, get 6 more schools from out east and have 2 divisions of 6 West/East with less but still some cross country travel. Memphis, Tulane, USF...? UConn? ? ?
Report: Tulane, Memphis Eyed by Pac-12 amid Additions of Boise State, More
The two most obvious additions IMO.
I would probably go get UNLV and UTSA or Texas State (both in San Antonio) to round out at 10 with Tulane and Memphis. Then wait a bit and see. You may have a chance in the near future for ACC left behinds, possibly including SMU, Cal, and Stanford.
The two most obvious additions IMO.
I would probably go get UNLV and UTSA or Texas State (both in San Antonio) to round out at 10 with Tulane and Memphis. Then wait a bit and see. You may have a chance in the near future for ACC left behinds, possibly including SMU, Cal, and Stanford.
It looks to me like in the end, if/when the ACC implodes you may have a similar situation there.
I could see Cal and Stan going back to the Pac. Then you will have a few teams, (Syr, BC, SMU, Wake, etc) left in the ACC work to patch together some form of a ACC, adding teams like Memphis, Tulane, Uconn, etc. Depending on who else the PAC adds.
We then will have a weird system where we will have a clear P3, with 2 conferences somewhere between the G5 and P3.
My guess these 2 leagues will be looking at something like $10m+/- each for a media deal, compared to $3m at the high end G5.
A question is if Stan and Cal will lower themselves to be with the new PAC schools academics. But they may not have much of a choice. They can stay with the ACC at that point but with a much lower payout, the travel costs may not be worth it at that level.
I could see Cal and Stan going back to the Pac. Then you will have a few teams, (Syr, BC, SMU, Wake, etc) left in the ACC work to patch together some form of a ACC, adding teams like Memphis, Tulane, Uconn, etc. Depending on who else the PAC adds.
We then will have a weird system where we will have a clear P3, with 2 conferences somewhere between the G5 and P3.
My guess these 2 leagues will be looking at something like $10m+/- each for a media deal, compared to $3m at the high end G5.
A question is if Stan and Cal will lower themselves to be with the new PAC schools academics. But they may not have much of a choice. They can stay with the ACC at that point but with a much lower payout, the travel costs may not be worth it at that level.
WSU/OSU are smart to pick the top brands of both the MWC and AAC. You not only need the best brands to maximize tv value for the PAC, but you also need to put enough distance between your league and the remainder of those two leagues that it becomes a no-brainer to stay with them if chaos in the ACC comes next. They won't be able to survive the perception of losing any of those new brands to the ACC if that league loses teams to the P2/Big 12 and has a desire to backfill. So I'm sure there's trepidation there. If OSU/WSU gets the call to go east, they've still created a Super G5 conference with the PAC's name.
I don't think Cal and Stanford will be crazy about going back to the reconstituted PAC, they had the opportunity to stay already and went east. I think the backfilling by the PAC is a sign they are just going to try and move on and see what they can make out of something new.
I don't think Cal and Stanford will be crazy about going back to the reconstituted PAC, they had the opportunity to stay already and went east. I think the backfilling by the PAC is a sign they are just going to try and move on and see what they can make out of something new.
I think you’re right on your last paragraph. If they didn’t want to join the Big 12 because of the lack of academic prowess, I’d find it hard that they’d join the new PAC with the teams just brought in.
Just spit balling here, but I think there’s a better chance they join the Ivy League before a new PAC.
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