I get what you are saying but with the schools that just left the MWC and unless a school out of AAC takes it the Pac6 conference will be the 5th strongest conference SOS wise and will get the bid more often than not.
Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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SOS isn’t going to matter, it’s what G5 team can beat a power 5 team in the handful of non con games they play. The only G5 team to ever make the playoffs or even come close came from the MAC and the MAC continues to have the most opportunities because of location. I get why the remaining pac2 did it but this makes very little sense for the MVC teams.
But at this point we’re going to be comparing teams ranked in the 30’s-40’s so honestly I guess more power to whoever wants to be the sacrifice
Many on here have wanted the Big 12 to add the Pac 2. I’m just glad this puts the Pac 2 to the Big 12 because they are like us and it would be fun to bed.
This is a big yawn for me. Wake me up when FSU/Clemson do something or the ACC implodes. *I say in my most P4 elitist voice*
This is a big yawn for me. Wake me up when FSU/Clemson do something or the ACC implodes. *I say in my most P4 elitist voice*
Oh **** you’re right, forgot cinci was in the American, they have been in like 8/9 different conferences and in my head they were always a MAC team. 100% wrong in my end
Hey pal, that’s a Big 12 playoff birth now!
Jokes aside, I knew what you meant.
The Big 12 has 5 teams in the Top 25. This new Pac league has 0. So joining either conference is the same argument? Sorry, but I don't see it.
too bad OSU and WSU couldnt just keep it as 2 Pac...
Well it was from a direct quote from the SDSU AD. So its true that the AD said that. Whether he what he said was accurate, that is the question.
But he looks like an idiot, and he completely burned any bridge he had with the B12 for saying it.
The fact that he thought he was going to get more like 50M from the Pac when it was falling apart is hilarious.
What he said is he was only offered a half share through this contract. So basically what OR and Wash got from the B10. After this contract they would be full share.
So half share would be around 16M compared to 3M for the Mt west he looks like an idiot. So why say it. Just dumb. I have doubts that this new Pac will get more than 15M.
But we will see. SDSU looks really dumb after the last 2 years and what all went on with them.
True but there were 5 power conferences for 4 spots when that occurred, now their are 4 P4 conferences and 12 spots. According to the Athletic article I posted if this P6 conference gets to 8 teams then it would be 5 power conferences again and they would get one of the bids as a power conference.
The article clearly states starting in 2026 the five power conferences champion gets a bid to the playoff and then the remaining teams to fill out the bracket. The only thing other than that is that the B10 and SEC will get more bids than the other conferences. So if the new Pac 12 can get to 8 teams it would then qualify as getting a conference champion bid to the playoff. Maybe the athletic article is incorrect, but that is what is says.
I think you’re misreading it. The exact quote from the article is “In a rebuilt Pac-12, the conference champion would have a shot at one of the five automatic bids provided to conference champions. All that’s been determined for the CFP in 2026 and beyond is that at least five conference champs have a spot”
Again, have a shot, not an auto bid. They still have to have one of the 5 highest rated champions. So again like I said for the teams in the MVC, they already had this access and this does really nothing to change it. OSU and WSU aren’t moving the needle in any to to be increasing the SOS. No reason the MAC or American, or any other G5 could take this spot. While this spot even remains.
I wonder how many votes it would take to dissolve the remaining 8 team Mountain West?
This new "PAC" will need and will get two teams somehow. I highly doubt Cal/Stan would join in next two years unless the ACC gets totally gutted early and they're left standing. If Memphis/Tulane want to join a weakened west coast conference, the American situation is truly dire.
I could see them gladly taking 4 more WMC picks IF the conference can dissolve so they don't have to pay exit fee x4 after already having these first 4x exit fees.
Idaho got demoted to FCS
NM St got demoted to CUSA
UConn and USF got demoted out of "power conference" after only briefly being lifted up
OreSt and WSU got demoted to this new version of MWC effectively.
6 to 4 of these remaining 8 MWC schools are likely headed to FCS or CUSA
To me those are the big and true "demotions" thus far.
I really don't know how it works with Hawaii, would FCS and CUSA programs be able to ever afford going there?
This new "PAC" will need and will get two teams somehow. I highly doubt Cal/Stan would join in next two years unless the ACC gets totally gutted early and they're left standing. If Memphis/Tulane want to join a weakened west coast conference, the American situation is truly dire.
I could see them gladly taking 4 more WMC picks IF the conference can dissolve so they don't have to pay exit fee x4 after already having these first 4x exit fees.
Idaho got demoted to FCS
NM St got demoted to CUSA
UConn and USF got demoted out of "power conference" after only briefly being lifted up
OreSt and WSU got demoted to this new version of MWC effectively.
6 to 4 of these remaining 8 MWC schools are likely headed to FCS or CUSA
To me those are the big and true "demotions" thus far.
I really don't know how it works with Hawaii, would FCS and CUSA programs be able to ever afford going there?
These comments confuse me, I must be missing something.
With Hawaii building a new stadium, is this the time they make a push to get into the new PAC? Seems like a now or never time for that effort. They definitely bring an interesting locale to the table for potential events
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they are an expensive add. thats a lot of travel costs getting to and from for the mainland schools.
Yeah, you’re wrong unless/until they change the rules. Top 5 conference Champions get an auto bid. Not the P5 champions. When the PAC was a P5, it was top 6 conference champions. Sure the PAC can get it most years, but there are other G6 conferences that can have their champion finish higher as well. We also knew the expanded playoffs were coming when everyone left the PAC.
Makes me wonder how the smaller, less profitable WAC schools afford to make it work. I'm sure it is expensive. Which leads me to think Hawaii would love to be in a more lucrative TV monied conference to help mitigate the travel bills.
