Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

Nolaeer

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And just like that you have a 19-game conference season, playing everybody once.

Or 20 games with only 1 H/H "rival".
or maybe you expand the season and play 40 games before march? or it becomes April Madness with the basketball adding another month to extend the season.

it is no longer about reading or writing, it's dollars and cents. And there's no real reason why extra games cant be added to accommodate a round robin of a 19 team hoops conference.

How many games does the NBA play?
 

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if the big 12 goes down this path of basketball only schools, we have to take nova too, that's a no brainer. Probably Georgetown for dc market, and 1 more.
Where did you get the impression of 'basketball only'? If so, why would there be stipulations with UConn to facilitate football? From that article and everything else I've read, football by no means will become second tier. It's just that a P1 basketball contract combined with a P3 football contract will be very close to a P2 contract.
 
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Where did you get the impression of 'basketball only'? If so, why would there be stipulations with UConn to facilitate football? From that article and everything else I've read, football by no means will become second tier. It's just that a P1 basketball contract combined with a P3 football contract will be very close to a P2 contract.
well, uconn would be added w/o football. and there is no guarantee uconn will ever be in the big 12 as a football school. so, for a period of time, uconn will be basketball/olympic sports only.
 

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hold on to your hats!

With the Big 12 Conference reportedly in “serious” expansion talks with UConn, a new report from Action Network‘s Brett McMurphy says there’s another layer to possible Big 12 expansion.

According to McMurphy, if the Big 12 was to bring UConn on board, it would then turn its focus to ACC teams, including teams that could have natural rivalries with the Big 12.

“Keep your eye on what happens in the ACC,” a source told McMurphy.

I'm guessing he's talking Louisville, Pitt, and VT.
 

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well, uconn would be added w/o football. and there is no guarantee uconn will ever be in the big 12 as a football school. so, for a period of time, uconn will be basketball/olympic sports only.
I saw on reddit that UConn football wouldn't start until 2031. I think that would change some opinions on adding them (in a positive way). Brings them in right away for basketball, gives their football program some time to improve.
 

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hold on to your hats!

With the Big 12 Conference reportedly in “serious” expansion talks with UConn, a new report from Action Network‘s Brett McMurphy says there’s another layer to possible Big 12 expansion.

According to McMurphy, if the Big 12 was to bring UConn on board, it would then turn its focus to ACC teams, including teams that could have natural rivalries with the Big 12.

“Keep your eye on what happens in the ACC,” a source told McMurphy.

I'm guessing he's talking Louisville, Pitt, and VT.

I mean, if you’ve been even slightly paying attention you’d know this (not directed at you, just seems like an obvious thing for an insider to report as news).

I wonder if espn doesn’t use the option they presumably have in their ACC contract to trim the fat and move the brands they want to the conferences they want.
 
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well, uconn would be added w/o football. and there is no guarantee uconn will ever be in the big 12 as a football school. so, for a period of time, uconn will be basketball/olympic sports only.
Did I read that article differently? I thought there were stipulations on football investment. Of course, they might not meet those requirements (which is what you may be alluding to), but then they'd be in conflict with the 'agreement'. What consequences, none of us at this juncture know. It's speculation. However, to even infer a required investment in football, suggests very strongly, an intent by BY.
 

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Did I read that article differently? I thought there were stipulations on football investment. Of course, they might not meet those requirements (which is what you may be alluding to), but then they'd be in conflict with the 'agreement'. What consequences, none of us at this juncture know. It's speculation. However, to even infer a required investment in football, suggests very strongly, an intent by BY.
those upgrades in football look steep. it took WVU years to catch up to the rest of the big 12, and WVU was far ahead of where UCONN is at. Im not sure Uconn has the deep pockets for it.
 
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According to McMurphy, if the Big 12 was to bring UConn on board, it would then turn its focus to ACC teams, including teams that could have natural rivalries with the Big 12. “Keep your eye on what happens in the ACC,” a source told McMurphy.

I'm guessing he's talking Louisville, Pitt, and VT.
The B12 will initially target all ACC schools in their "Magnificent 7". Louisville and Pitt aren't part of that group and hopefully the B12 doesn't need to go past that 7 if the ACC implodes.
 

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The B12 will initially target all ACC schools in their "Magnificent 7". Louisville and Pitt aren't part of that group and hopefully the B12 doesn't need to go past that 7 if the ACC implodes.
there is zero chance the big 12 is getting UNC. I think BY will target who he thinks he can get--and who ESPN and Fox tell him the big 12 can have. Would the big 12 rather have fsu and clemson with unequal shares, or vt and nc state as equal members?
 

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there is zero chance the big 12 is getting UNC. I think BY will target who he thinks he can get--and who ESPN and Fox tell him the big 12 can have. Would the big 12 rather have fsu and clemson with unequal shares, or vt and nc state as equal members?
VT and NC State. Only reason to take FSU and Clemson is to kill off the ACC and to get others like VT and NC State that would be long term.
 

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there is zero chance the big 12 is getting UNC. I think BY will target who he thinks he can get--and who ESPN and Fox tell him the big 12 can have. Would the big 12 rather have fsu and clemson with unequal shares, or vt and nc state as equal members?
I would think Big12 media consultants would have a pretty good idea who is going to be available for the Big12 since FOX & ESPN are the in the drivers seat with Big10 and SEC respectively. And ESPN/FOX basically share (60/40) investment in Big12 media rights.

Sure new partners could emerge in 2030/31. But if ESPN decides not to continue their ACC deal in 2027, the main players will stay the same: ESPN, FOX, NBC, CBS. Those players aren't going to give up top tier games each week to a streamer. Especially when those 4 entities want to expand their own streaming presence.

IMO Yormark has a pretty good idea who Big10/SEC will target. Also, I believe most ACC teams would be adds for the Big12. Possible exceptions being: Boston College, Wake Forest, Syracuse, Duke?, Stanford, Cal and SMU. So Yormark can target tier 3 ACC schools and if perceived tier 2 schools doesn't get a Big10 or SEC invite, they can be late Big12 adds.

It could also happen that schools left behind with post 2020 Big10, SEC and Big12 realignment moves will be attractive realignment adds when Big10, SEC and Big12 go into their next round of media negotiations in the 2030's. aka Does Big10 have interest in two more historical Pac12 teams? Are more historical Big 12 teams targets of Big10/SEC? Does Big12 have interest in Duke, Syracuse, Stanford, Cal?

Not sure things are going to settle down for another decade.
 

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hold on to your hats!

With the Big 12 Conference reportedly in “serious” expansion talks with UConn, a new report from Action Network‘s Brett McMurphy says there’s another layer to possible Big 12 expansion.

According to McMurphy, if the Big 12 was to bring UConn on board, it would then turn its focus to ACC teams, including teams that could have natural rivalries with the Big 12.

“Keep your eye on what happens in the ACC,” a source told McMurphy.

I'm guessing he's talking Louisville, Pitt, and VT.
this aligns with what I said about 5 pages ago. And frankly, what I thought the LAST time we were talking UConn, before the PAC12 final break up. I may end up being wrong, but going down this road seems to be BY's strategy.