Is this not deceiving cause of different tv time slots, what channel the games were on, how successful the team’s season was…
Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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Perhaps this is where the tv networks come up with additional money to the conference the teams transfer to (at least if the broadcast networks are the same.) An interesting research topic.
I'd take Syracuse and Georgia Tech tonight if they were available. Football viewership similar to ISU and in the middle of the new Big 12. Besides that Syracuse basketball is ooolala and would fit right in while Virginia and Duke are still trying to figure out how to dunk a football, or what offsides means.
By 2025 ESPN will have a stand alone product and the traditional cable package will fall to under 50 million homes very soon after that.
The regional networks are faltering. Streamers aren't profitable.
Apple could buy all of Disney.
The era of change is moving faster than ever. I have no idea if the Big 12 could get the contract it has now by 2030.
Good luck to them. Their tv contract is $23M. With basketball and other addons the Big 12 is over $40M. Our 3 new eastern schools are perhaps our weak point, but all will settle in for them by 2031.
I agree with you that the money will look very different 5-10 -20 years from now. What will stay the same or even increase is the demand for athletic contests on TV regardless of how is is distributed.
I do not see a reduction of advertising demand which is the $ support for the tv contracts. What we will see is the effect of three or possibly four super conferences soaking up all of the tv broadcast slots for football, and perhaps the rise of other super basketball conferences, with their schools dropping football.
Viewership may cycle back to the traditional broadcast or satellite mode as we see the beginnings of unrest from the streamers as their costs are rising. When people total their multiple streaming sources and see that the cost is the same as cable, well, things will change again.
KidSilverhair
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Dibs on “Big F***ing 12.” Or “Big D*** Energy 12.”
ND is asking NBC for $75M. If a network isn't willing to pay +/- $60M for ND's 7 or 8 home games as an independent- then the Irish are Big10 bound.
I can see ACC schools getting frustrated with the Irish as ND could make $85M on their base media deal ($75M from NBC & $10M+ from ACC). Whereas, the 14 ACC schools base media deal is around $20M.
I think people are really overrating these acc schools. After the big ten and sec are done there is very very little value there. Maybe 2, but not much more.
Perhaps they could join a new hypothetical Continental Conference with Washington State, Oregon State, Cal, Stanford, SMU and any of the American Athletic Conference, Mountain West Conference, etc. teams looking for a new home.
Now that NBC is involved with the B10, do they collude with the other networks to lowball ND so they have to join a conference for cheaper? Also, will NBC and CBS, or other, be interested in some different time slots for B12 games during the next cycle? Fox and ESPN have been the only networks involved with the B12 over the years, but I could see that changing, especially if we get down to 3 leagues.
Value is all in how you use and package them. Giving a team visibility in an expanded market can generate new value.
I would be interested in watching ISU play some of these schools we have heard about but not paid attention to. I can think that our new schools: Arizona, Arizona State, BYU, and Cincinnati will be fun to get to know. I would even enjoy a trip to see Central Florida (and Disney World) in November or December.
And, perhaps in the future Georgia Tech and Miami would make fun games on TV or even in person. .
Neither of the schools have value for the Big 12.
ND's new AD is a former NBC exec and reportedly wants to keep ND an indy for FB. There is a reason that hire was made and it wasn't to eventually join the B10.
Gtech and syracuse lack fans.
Sure, Cuse was a premier program when they had Jim Brown, Floyd Little, Donovan McNabb, et all, but those days are long gone and they're not coming back.
Cuse hoops isnt elite anymore either.
Neither of these teams add value.
ACC teams in terms of value that may be available:
VT
NC State
Miami
Pitt
Louisville
Duke
None of the rest would be any better than Uconn. If NC State and UNC are tied together by the state legislature, they could fall to the big 12 bc neither the sec or BIG take them both.
Miami is a small private school who hasnt won anything in decades. Pitt has more ACC titles than Miami (who has none). VT has about 5.
“Big Fasting 12.” Or “Big Dish Energy 12”?
That is so unexceptional!
I think you can do better.
VT and NcSt would top my wish list, but thats my opinion.
The biggest surprises to me on that list are GT, VT and UVA. I had written off GT as a relegation candidate but they're viewership is nearly as strong as ours. Outside of UGA, does GT even have any actual rivals?
OTOH, Virginia looks like another Cal and Stanford; great academic school but nothing for fan or alumni support. Does the B1G really want that? And does the B12 want VTech? Those numbers are awful, I figured they were much more popular than that.
So if the B12 targets 2, and knowing the top draws from the ACC will go to B1G and SEC, it looks like maybe Syracuse and Pitt would be the two best targets of the bunch.
