Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

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OU probably needed more money to sustain their success. Texas would rather lose to the SEC teams where it looks better then to the Big12. They just looked down on the conference and felt they belonged in the SEC, wasn’t really a money move for them
You seriously believe that? Yeah, I’m sure Texas left for the SEC because they were tired of losing to big 12 schools. Money clearly was not the driving factor.

Just stop. You’re losing credibility with these comments.
 

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Not for every state. Some go into December. But the law is also written to apply to college football too.

Here is how the law is written the NFL cannot play "during the period beginning on the second Friday in September and ending on the second Saturday in December in any year from any telecasting station located within seventy-five miles of the game site of any intercollegiate or interscholastic football contest scheduled to be played."

They are in violation of the law playing on Black Friday. They just don’t care.
Technically they are not as the law states games after 6 pm on Friday. Kickoff for the Black Friday game is set for 2 pm and should be done by the 6 pm deadline.
 
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What if the super conference licensed the IP of the school, but split off as a separate entity?

Then this new group could have a salary cap, a uniform set code of conduct, and a draft. Their own playoff, a collectively bargained TV deal with a SaturdayTicket package. Sell ads on the jersey. The whole nine yards.

Name it the National Football Conference or something fun

If we're gonna kill college football, let's kill the mother ******.
I don’t know about a draft, but there are ways the Super League could create parity (scheduling, equal revenue distribution, salary caps if players are paid, etc). The NFL can do it, so can this Super League. There’s no reason why the same teams at the bottom would always stay there.

Also no teams would make their decision under the belief that they’d be one of those bottom teams . Any team considered for that league would believe they’ll be successful in it. That thought process wouldn’t matter at all in the creation of the Super League. The only consideration for the creation of the league will be “does this make us more money or not?”
 
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This makes sense to me with what CW has reported about the pro rata and lack of network money, with earlier reports about cool interest on both sides of the Big 12 and Bay Area schools, and now with the ACC meeting about taking them.

Feels like the ACC goes to 16 with Cal/Stanford and the Mtn West goes to 14 with Wazzu/Oregon State. Then we’re done until Florida State decides to fight the ACC GOR.
I don't think the ACC will make those adds, it's just noise to make BC and Wake nervous and agree to unequal revenue sharing for Clemson & FSU.

MWC will go to 16, or else 14 and Cal/Stanford go independent and play with the WCC. My guess.
 

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You seriously believe that? Yeah, I’m sure Texas left for the SEC because they were tired of losing to big 12 schools. Money clearly was not the driving factor.

Just stop. You’re losing credibility with these comments.
Texas doesn’t need the money and actually puts its surplus back into the university, not to other non revenue sports, the university.

Yes texas left because they don’t want to lose to Big12 schools and they thought they were simply better than the other schools in the Big12. It’s like the hack on the muni golf course that loses to the guy in jeans. Moving up to the country club doesn’t make them a better golfer but they feel better about who they are associating with and makes losing more palatable.
 

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OU and UT left for the SEC for gobs more $$$ and because they're the biggest brands in the Big 12 by far. They're not going to be the biggest brands in a superconference. If they go to a superconference, W/Ls will matter because the entire conference will be elite brands and if OU and UT find themselves suddenly as sub .500 programs, the top half of that superconference isn't going to want to subsidize them.
Hilarious. You think nobody in the super conference would want to carry dead weight Texas if they are continually in the bottom half?

Hate to break it to you, Texas has been average for the last 10 years. Yet the value of the athletic program is still one of the highest in the country. Wins-losses won’t matter like you claim it will be.
 

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It just means more in the SEC... This is an absolute joke. How lucky Vanderbilt is to be able to not have to worry about being relegated and can continue to not care about their athletics (outside of baseball of course).

Gonna copy your post.
 
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Hilarious. You think nobody in the super conference would want to carry dead weight Texas if they are continually in the bottom half?

Hate to break it to you, Texas has been average for the last 10 years. Yet the value of the athletic programs is still one of the highest in the country. Wins-losses won’t matter like you claim it will be.
Because they were in the Big 12. If you think Texas' value will thrive as a sub-.500 program in a conference alongside Bama, Georgia, tOSU, Michigan, LSU, USC, ND, PSU, etc., I think you're kidding yourself.
 

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Doesn't the Big 12 currently have a path to the CFP?

Do you seriously think in the world of a superconference that ISU would have a possible path to a national title?
I am saying who knows... anything is possible these days.

I also am saying if they ever came to a super conference, and they had a separate national championship, I am sure there would be another championship for the others not in the super league. Similar to FCS having their own championship.

The other thing is, they still have to fill content spots on media partners. So there will still be B12 football on TV etc. It would not be that much different than today.

It will just be another league, just like we have NFL, FBS, FCS, they all have separate champs. So it would be NFL, SCL (super college league), FBS, FCS. Not plausible that it happens but definitely possible.
 

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Because they were in the Big 12. If you think Texas' value will thrive as a sub-.500 program in a conference alongside Bama, Georgia, tOSU, Michigan, LSU, USC, ND, PSU, etc., I think you're kidding yourself.
Texas value is thriving the last 10 years being average. You’d think their value would decrease being average in the lowly big 12
 

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I agree. Every conference needs bottom feeders. NOBODY would tune in for a 4-7 TAMU vs 6-5 Alabama. Fans of those teams are not used to those type of win-loss records and would be checked out of the season way before that. People tune in for ranked teams, ranked match ups, undefeated teams, and rivalries. Networks know it and conferences know it. They need the Vanderbilts and Rutgers of the world to make the top teams in those conferences look strong and drive viewership.
Many here state this concept, but I have to strongly disagree this will prevent a premier league from happening.

The NFL has LOTS of crappy teams with crappy records, and no one is looking to get out and it isn't killing ratings. Middle teams are facing off to make the playoffs, and that generates interest even if they aren't undefeated. A 20 team premier league can easily fill the 6-7 prime tv slots weekly, even if it has a couple stinker matchups every week.

What SHOULD prevent a premier league from happening is that a great number of viewers not tied to the premier teams will not watch - you eliminate half your audience. BUT tv/media folks may underestimate that, or may think they can overcome it in time, in their greed and desire to build a second NFL-like product.

Don't underestimate the stupidity and greed of the media powers that be, and the university personnel that are both afraid to be left behind and completely arrogant at the same time.
 
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Texas value is thriving the last 10 years being average. You’d think their value would decrease being average in the lowly big 12
UT's value didn't decrease because even as an average program based on W/L in the Big 12 they're still one of just 2 bluebloods and the biggest brand in the conference. In a superconference, their brand is nothing special. That's the difference.
 

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I disagree. SEC doesn't even want to schedule more conference games and a lot of these schools don't want any harder of schedules. I just don't see these powerhouse schools wanting a 30 league super conference. Somebody has to lose. And even the top teams are still going to lose more than they do now if they're playing the top teams week in and week out.
Agree. Media loves to talk about elite super conferences, but they never think about logistics and realities of human behavior of people making the decision. There is already enough money now in the current super conference model.
 
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Texas doesn’t need the money and actually puts its surplus back into the university, not to other non revenue sports, the university.

Yes texas left because they don’t want to lose to Big12 schools and they thought they were simply better than the other schools in the Big12. It’s like the hack on the muni golf course that loses to the guy in jeans. Moving up to the country club doesn’t make them a better golfer but they feel better about who they are associating with and makes losing more palatable.
So you are going on record that texas leaving for the SEC was not financially motivated?

Thanks for the comedy
 
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It just means more in the SEC... This is an absolute joke. How lucky Vanderbilt is to be able to not have to worry about being relegated and can continue to not care about their athletics (outside of baseball of course).


Ohhhh boy. Just imagine the optics of not being able to fill a high school stadium. Please let that happen! :D
 

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But you’d think their value would decrease substantially if their record wasn’t very good in a mediocre conference.

You think Texas fans will stop watching the team in the SEC if they are sub 500 each year? I mean being mediocre in a mediocre conference didn’t stop fans from watching Texas.

Realignment is 100% about money. It’s been that way for 25 or so years, at the dawn of realignments
 

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I don’t know about a draft, but there are ways the Super League could create parity (scheduling, equal revenue distribution, salary caps if players are paid, etc). The NFL can do it, so can this Super League. There’s no reason why the same teams at the bottom would always stay there.

Also no teams would make their decision under the belief that they’d be one of those bottom teams . Any team considered for that league would believe they’ll be successful in it. That thought process wouldn’t matter at all in the creation of the Super League. The only consideration for the creation of the league will be “does this make us more money or not?”
I watch the NFL. I don’t watch the lower leagues and I won’t watch a college super league that doesn’t include my school. I would say that a very high percentage of fans feel the same way as me. If TV executives don’t realize this, they will be in for a rude awakening if it ever happens.