Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

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Lol, my loyalty to Iowa football isn't what tells me a superconference wouldn't happen, I just don't think it would work because eventually 1/2 of that superconference would be comprised of .500 programs which would then be the same kind of dead weight as the bottom half of the B1G and SEC today. Nobody's explained to me how that wouldn't happen. I'm all ears. I know a superconference is the dream for some of you because it would kill off Iowa football but it would also kill off ISU football so it's a little baffling why some are rooting for it.
I don't think there's any fan that's rooting for it. I think some just wouldn't be surprised if that's what happens. Either way, it wouldn't kill off either program. We'd be college football and they'd be "super college football" or whatever those dumb ***** would call it. Either way, even if it does happen our version of college football would still happen. You cannot just kill off however many college football programs because how the hell is the rest of the athletic departments suppose to survive? If you kill them off, you're killing off every other sport as well.
 

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I’m already there. I stay following this stuff because it’s interesting to watch play out and how it affects schools. But my interest in college sports is about gone. I’ll go to an occasional game but I’ve got better ways to spend my time and money.
I've gotten even more into NFL.
 

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Anybody predicting the future even 10 years out is clueless. In 2010 the Pac-10 had the best media rights deal and were on the goal line of adding Texas, TAMU, and Oklahoma. Now they are going to evaporate 13 years later.

We have no clue what will happen in the 2030s or even sooner, but no one would go broke betting on greed in realignment.
 

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Lol, my loyalty to Iowa football isn't what tells me a superconference wouldn't happen, I just don't think it would work because eventually 1/2 of that superconference would be comprised of .500 programs which would then be the same kind of dead weight as the bottom half of the B1G and SEC today. Nobody's explained to me how that wouldn't happen. I'm all ears. I know a superconference is the dream for some of you because it would kill off Iowa football but it would also kill off ISU football so it's a little baffling why some are rooting for it.
You are assuming wins-losses means more than $$. Did OU and Texas leave for the SEC because they felt they would win more games/better chances at winning national titles???
 

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High schools seasons are done by then. Just because college chooses to play on that Friday doesn't change how the law works. Same as if college played on a Thursday, NFL wouldn't have to stop it's Thursday night game. No Fridays for the NFL during HS football season and Saturdays during College season.
Not for every state. Some go into December. But the law is also written to apply to college football too.

Here is how the law is written the NFL cannot play "during the period beginning on the second Friday in September and ending on the second Saturday in December in any year from any telecasting station located within seventy-five miles of the game site of any intercollegiate or interscholastic football contest scheduled to be played."

They are in violation of the law playing on Black Friday. They just don’t care.
 
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You are assuming wins-losses means more than $$. Did OU and Texas leave for the SEC because they felt they would win more games/better chances at winning national titles???
OU probably needed more money to sustain their success. Texas would rather lose to the SEC teams where it looks better then to the Big12. They just looked down on the conference and felt they belonged in the SEC, wasn’t really a money move for them
 

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They’re only one vote and I guess they’re a have-not now but Big Ten member Nebraska is why Big 12 didn’t have equal revenue.

The Big 12 is so much nicer now that the 4 schools that held the rest of the league back are gone.
 
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Lol, my loyalty to Iowa football isn't what tells me a superconference wouldn't happen, I just don't think it would work because eventually 1/2 of that superconference would be comprised of .500 programs which would then be the same kind of dead weight as the bottom half of the B1G and SEC today. Nobody's explained to me how that wouldn't happen. I'm all ears. I know a superconference is the dream for some of you because it would kill off Iowa football but it would also kill off ISU football so it's a little baffling why some are rooting for it.

What if the super conference licensed the IP of the school, but split off as a separate entity?

Then this new group could have a salary cap, a uniform set code of conduct, and a draft. Their own playoff, a collectively bargained TV deal with a SaturdayTicket package. Sell ads on the jersey. The whole nine yards.

Name it the National Football Conference or something fun

If we're gonna kill college football, let's kill the mother ******.
 

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Lol, my loyalty to Iowa football isn't what tells me a superconference wouldn't happen, I just don't think it would work because eventually 1/2 of that superconference would be comprised of .500 programs which would then be the same kind of dead weight as the bottom half of the B1G and SEC today. Nobody's explained to me how that wouldn't happen. I'm all ears. I know a superconference is the dream for some of you because it would kill off Iowa football but it would also kill off ISU football so it's a little baffling why some are rooting for it.
How would being in a conference outside the so called super conference, be any different than where ISU is now? Outside the supposed power 2.

If something like that ever happens, there will still be conferences a step down, just like now.

You just have a problem with the idea Iowa would likely not be part of the in crowd if that time ever comes.

B1G and SEC already are going to have some big boys not winning it all every year, but they all are all for it.

You think UT and OU really believe they are going in to be middle teams. They fully believe they are going to be SEC champs every year.

The egos of these top tier schools will not let them believe they wont be the best no matter where they go. It will be the same moving to a super conference. Going in they will all think they are going to win it all, so they will jump at the chance of the big money. Then after a decade of not winning they may start being unhappy, but that will be years after the deal is done.
 

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Different for holidays, they have played on a Friday for Christmas before I believe as well
I don’t believe there is anything in that law that exempts holiday. It’s written based on the timeframe between the second Friday of Sept through the second Saturday of December. Also, I don’t think Black Friday is an official holiday (I still have to work :puke:)
 
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Seems like the guy isn't familiar with his NCAA television history. First complains college sports have become all about money, then rips the NCAA for not doing more to prevent realignment in college.

What the idiot doesn't seem to connect is realignment is directly related to television deals - something the NCAA can't do anything about, and hasn't been able to do anything about since the 1980s when OU sued and won the rights for conferences to directly negotiate with television networks, taking that control away from the NCAA. So what's the NCAA to do? Tell the Pac 12 schools "you will stay in the Pac 12 Conference. Oh? All you can do is get a really bad streaming deal from Apple TV that will have you making $50 million less than your peers in the Big 10? Thems the breaks." Yeah - that's not going to work. Not to mention I didn't see this pretentious douchebag making the same arguments a decade ago when the Big 10 brought in Nebraska, Rutgers, and Maryland.

I am really tired of these patronizing ***holes from these universities that got theirs whining about how money is destroying college football after the rest of us are doing what we can to survive the new landscape. I mean, go **** yourself.
 

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You are assuming wins-losses means more than $$. Did OU and Texas leave for the SEC because they felt they would win more games/better chances at winning national titles???
OU and UT left for the SEC for gobs more $$$ and because they're the biggest brands in the Big 12 by far. They're not going to be the biggest brands in a superconference. If they go to a superconference, W/Ls will matter because the entire conference will be elite brands and if OU and UT find themselves suddenly as sub .500 programs, the top half of that superconference isn't going to want to subsidize them.
 

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Seems like the guy isn't familiar with his NCAA television history. First complains college sports have become all about money, then rips the NCAA for not doing more to prevent realignment in college.

What the idiot doesn't seem to connect is realignment is directly related to television deals - something the NCAA can't do anything about, and hasn't been able to do anything about since the 1980s when OU sued and won the rights for conferences to directly negotiate with television networks, taking that control away from the NCAA. So what's the NCAA to do? Tell the Pac 12 schools "you will stay in the Pac 12 Conference. Oh? All you can do is get a really bad streaming deal from Apple TV that will have you making $50 million less than your peers in the Big 10? Thems the breaks." Yeah - that's not going to work. Not to mention I didn't see this pretentious douchebag making the same arguments a decade ago when the Big 10 brought in Nebraska, Rutgers, and Maryland.

I am really tired of these patronizing ***holes from these universities that got theirs whining about how money is destroying college football after the rest of us are doing what we can to survive the new landscape. I mean, go **** yourself.
Dudes a nepo baby, just an idiot who is a legacy with a well known local name.
 

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We'll see, I don't think we see a CFB Super League ever, much less within 10 years.
I agree. Every conference needs bottom feeders. NOBODY would tune in for a 4-7 TAMU vs 6-5 Alabama. Fans of those teams are not used to those type of win-loss records and would be checked out of the season way before that. People tune in for ranked teams, ranked match ups, undefeated teams, and rivalries. Networks know it and conferences know it. They need the Vanderbilts and Rutgers of the world to make the top teams in those conferences look strong and drive viewership.
 
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How would being in a conference outside the so called super conference, be any different than where ISU is now? Outside the supposed power 2.

If something like that ever happens, there will still be conferences a step down, just like now.

You just have a problem with the idea Iowa would likely not be part of the in crowd if that time ever comes.

B1G and SEC already are going to have some big boys not winning it all every year, but they all are all for it.

You think UT and OU really believe they are going in to be middle teams. They fully believe they are going to be SEC champs every year.

The egos of these top tier schools will not let them believe they wont be the best no matter where they go. It will be the same moving to a super conference. Going in they will all think they are going to win it all, so they will jump at the chance of the big money. Then after a decade of not winning they may start being unhappy, but that will be years after the deal is done.
Doesn't the Big 12 currently have a path to the CFP?

Do you seriously think in the world of a superconference that ISU would have a possible path to a national title?
 

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It's like a CEO complaining about company ownership not taking action on employee pay disparity. A rich white guy bloviating about immigrants while the camera zooms out to show his Hispanic yard crew. The words he's saying aren't the problem, in fact, I find a lot of it agreeable. It's the stank of irony tainting every word of it from a position like his. Never seeing himself as a part of the problem.

WUOR was unanimously approved by the B1G presidents, right? When given a chance to make a principled stand Michigan just went along with everyone else. Why isn't he calling that out?
 
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