Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

[2speedy1]

We don't. I just don't see a superconference as being a sustainable thing in any way.

To be fair I remember you in particular saying the B1G taking PAC schools and the Pac falling apart would never happen too. And were very adamant that it wouldnt happen when brought up before USCLA.

I think we can all agree anything is possible in the future, especially if it about money.

 

[Gonzo]

Maybe I am wrong, but didn't they just go unequal with OW?

Aside from USC/UCLA, new additions to the conference typically come in at a reduced share that scales up to eventually reach equal share.

 

[RezClone]

I mean we can't go back to the days where the Rose Bowl was played against a team we literally had no info on. I'm old enough to remember the Big Ten playing on New Years against teams we knew nothing about other that what we heard on the pregame...

iowa has a relatively HUGE contingent of their fan base that similar ignorance still applies to on a weekly basis.

Should it bother me so much? No
Does it? Yup.

 

[SolterraCyclone]

They can’t, it’s legit against the law…

Well that was one of the unlikelier options. But, the same law says they can’t play on Fridays, and yet, they’re playing a Black Friday game this year.

 

[Gonzo]

To be fair I remember you in particular saying the B1G taking PAC schools and the Pac falling apart would never happen too. And were very adamant that it wouldnt happen when brought up before USCLA.

I think we can all agree anything is possible in the future, especially if it about money.

Show me a link where I said the B1G would never take PAC schools. I don't remember ever saying that. I was surprised when it happened because I didn't think it would happen as fast as it did, but I don't think I ever said the B1G wouldn't take PAC schools.

 

[CycloneErik]

This might have been my favorite part! As if content on ESPN and Fox is just gone forever unless you remember to set your VCR and record it over that episode of Family Matters where Urkel finally gets Lisa's attention.

Spoiler tags exist for a reason.

 

[CoachHines3]

 

[CascadeClone]

The entire article about how a P2 conference is not sustainable. We don't know for sure if one super conference will form or not, but there is a real possibility of it occurring. At this point, people should at least admit such a thing could occur, and it's more likely to happen now than it was even 10 years ago.

This is just Finebaum laying the (very early) groundwork for ESPN to set up their Premier League.

"South Carolina is just a kindergarten compared to Bama and LSU"

 

[LonelyCyKC]

I don’t think anybody gets “kicked out” but things evolve anyway. No conference has “kicked out” Washington state. But thinking NW and Ohio St will get sane cut forever is just not realistic.

The best thing for stability is if b10 and SEC payments can be identical, if one is even 20% more than the other that could trigger movement in future decades too. Texas was outraged they were going to fall 15-20% behind SEC teams and LHN allowed them to make more than SEC for a period. It wasn’t like the sec was wildly ahead of b12 when this all ramped up.

Then of course they’re gonna squeeze what they understandably see as freeloaders once expansion is difficult or impossible.

A little known fact about Texas is that they take money from their sports (football) program earnings to support their academic campus. This is the only school I have come across that does this. Perhaps it is a result of the amount of money they do/don't get from the State of Texas for University operations. This is why, more than any other University, they focus on sports as an income generating activity.

 

[houjix]

Well that was one of the unlikelier options. But, the same law says they can’t play on Fridays, and yet, they’re playing a Black Friday game this year.

High schools seasons are done by then. Just because college chooses to play on that Friday doesn't change how the law works. Same as if college played on a Thursday, NFL wouldn't have to stop it's Thursday night game. No Fridays for the NFL during HS football season and Saturdays during College season.

 

[2speedy1]

If you think the B1G and SEC start shedding schools, I guess we'll see. I don't see it happening. I wouldn't be surprised to see top programs in the B1G get a bigger cut from CFP and bowl revenues, but I don't see them hacking the bottom programs. To sustain elite programs/brands, conferences need cannon fodder. Cram an entire slate of elite programs into a conference, and it won't be long before half of those programs are no longer elite. So then what happens? They get cut too? Don't see it happening.

It is very obvious, that any idea that possibly puts Iowa and Michigan St at risk of being on the outside is quickly denounced by a few on here, wonder what schools they are a fan of.

Am I saying any of these ideas happen, no not really, but I do think there are possible scenarios that some form of what people are talking about happens. And yes that would put Iowa and Mich St at risk.

You can say it will never happen all you want, but if anything, the recent past has shown, you really should not say never.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

Well that was one of the unlikelier options. But, the same law says they can’t play on Fridays, and yet, they’re playing a Black Friday game this year.

Different for holidays, they have played on a Friday for Christmas before I believe as well

 

[cyIclSoneU]

This makes sense to me with what CW has reported about the pro rata and lack of network money, with earlier reports about cool interest on both sides of the Big 12 and Bay Area schools, and now with the ACC meeting about taking them.

Feels like the ACC goes to 16 with Cal/Stanford and the Mtn West goes to 14 with Wazzu/Oregon State. Then we’re done until Florida State decides to fight the ACC GOR.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

It is very obvious, that any idea that possibly puts Iowa and Michigan St at risk of being on the outside is quickly denounced by a few on here, wonder what schools they are a fan of.

Am I saying any of these ideas happen, no not really, but I do think there are possible scenarios that some form of what people are talking about happens. And yes that would put Iowa and Mich St at risk.

You can say it will never happen all you want, but if anything, the recent past has shown, you really should not say never.

Yep trying to say extremely unlikely more than “never”. Obv have my bias being a Sparty/Mich alum but just don’t see it. Could have my head in the sand but I just don’t. Michigan will obv be fine, but sparty is in a very weird spot and is trending down hard in football.

 

[2speedy1]

Show me a link where I said the B1G would never take PAC schools. I don't remember ever saying that. I was surprised when it happened because I didn't think it would happen as fast as it did, but I don't think I ever said the B1G wouldn't take PAC schools.

Yep, Im gonna go back and search a year and a half ago just to prove you wrong...Nope.

I remember you and spartan being pretty adamant that the B1G would not add PAC schools. There were a lot of others here too that didnt believe it would happen, even when I said it was possible with all the current media negotiations.

Money Talks and that is what matters to these people. That and Power.

 

[isucy86]

You seriously think ESPN could afford to pay twice what FOX, NBC, CBS are paying combined?

Yes. If ad rates support the rights fee, then ESPN can afford just as easy as FOX/NBC & CBS.

Down the line, if live sports thrive on subscription/ streaming TV then ESPN could be in a great spot with Disney+/Hulu/ESPN+ platform development experience. A 1-stop for sports.

With BIG10 partners, not sure Paramount+ or Peacock are at same level. They have some catch-up over the next 5-10 years.

 

[Statefan10]

It just means more in the SEC... This is an absolute joke. How lucky Vanderbilt is to be able to not have to worry about being relegated and can continue to not care about their athletics (outside of baseball of course).

 

[FriendlySpartan]

Yep, Im gonna go back and search a year and a half ago just to prove you wrong...Nope.

I remember you and spartan being pretty adamant that the B1G would not add PAC schools. There were a lot of others here too that didnt believe it would happen, even when I said it was possible with all the current media negotiations.

Money Talks and that is what matters to these people. That and Power.

I 100% said that I hadn’t heard anything about adding the LA schools and didn’t believe it would happen. Now that happened in a very different way than the other expansions but yep was totally wrong on that one.

 

[Gonzo]

It is very obvious, that any idea that possibly puts Iowa and Michigan St at risk of being on the outside is quickly denounced by a few on here, wonder what schools they are a fan of.

Am I saying any of these ideas happen, no not really, but I do think there are possible scenarios that some form of what people are talking about happens. And yes that would put Iowa and Mich St at risk.

You can say it will never happen all you want, but if anything, the recent past has shown, you really should not say never.

Lol, my loyalty to Iowa football isn't what tells me a superconference wouldn't happen, I just don't think it would work because eventually 1/2 of that superconference would be comprised of .500 programs which would then be the same kind of dead weight as the bottom half of the B1G and SEC today. Nobody's explained to me how that wouldn't happen. I'm all ears. I know a superconference is the dream for some of you because it would kill off Iowa football but it would also kill off ISU football so it's a little baffling why some are rooting for it.

 

[Gonzo]

Yep, Im gonna go back and search a year and a half ago just to prove you wrong...Nope.

I remember you and spartan being pretty adamant that the B1G would not add PAC schools. There were a lot of others here too that didnt believe it would happen, even when I said it was possible with all the current media negotiations.

Money Talks and that is what matters to these people. That and Power.

Lol, ok so go ahead and sling whatever you want about things I supposedly said without having to provide actual proof that I said it. Makes sense.