Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

Stormin

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I get the hate for Utah. But they do bring good football. PAC 12 Champions the last 2 years. And will be hated rivals of everyone. Rivalries bring eyeball. Holy War will be epic. You take them because they solidify our base. Big 12 at 16 teams will survive.
 

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If a school is asking for uneven revenue distribution, that would be a non-starter to me. They'll ask to stop equal revenue sharing in a league where they might lose a bit off the top, but are wanting to move to a league where they will likely be a beneficiary of it. If that isn't the definition of hypocrisy, I don't know what is

They are actively sabotaging the brand of the conference they might get stuck with. Nebraska was the same way (complained about revenue sharing until they benefitted from it).
Also, is there that much of a benefit to adopting unequal revenue sharing if you’re not Florida state or clemson or one of the other “winners”?

So you adopt unequal revenue sharing, you make less money now, and Florida state and clemson still leave near/at the end of the GOR.

Or, you say “**** you” and make the same amount of money until Florida State and Clemson leave (which they were going to do anyway), and you sue to enforce the GOR if they leave early. There’s a risk the GOR is found invalid, but I still think it’s better to take that risk.
 

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I get the hate for Utah. But they do bring good football. PAC 12 Champions the last 2 years. And will be hated rivals of everyone. Rivalries bring eyeball. Holy War will be epic. You take them because they solidify our base. Big 12 at 16 teams will survive.
We have enough dumb ass pricks on the other side of the state. We don’t need two groups of giant doosh bags to deal with on the regular.
 

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certainly possible, but I wonder just how big the Big 10 wants to get. With them already being at 16, do you take Washington now when FSU, Clemson, Miami, and UNC might be on the table next year?

If the Big 10 wants to go to 24 teams, then sure take Oregon and Washington and then wait for the ACC to fall apart.

I don't think the Big 10 wants to expand to that many teams and I also think FSU is negotiating through the media with the ACC. If they were serious about leaving, you don't broadcast it like this. These deals aren't made in public.
Again, I think it’s what ESPN and Fox want at this point. Only so many games can be on in a given day. They’re not going to pay $60 million for a team to not be on TV (or to be on ESPN News). It may be that they push schools like Oregon and Washington to the Big 12. We’ll pay you 40 but not 60 type of deal.
 

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Assuming college football goes exclusively streaming some day, I'll be delighted to watch the P2 conference leaders scratch their heads wondering how to increase their subscriber base after decades of narrowing the pool from a hundred schools down to a couple dozen.
Anything short of you throwing all of your media devices away, there will be a way for them to get your (and my) money, whether you want to give it to them or not.
 

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How do these powerhouse brands expect to remain relevant and competitive when they can only play each other and someone has to lose? And if we have to be close -- if not at -- the point where the schools want more money than the value they actually bring the conference. We'll be too saturated with big games -- they will cannibalize each other's ratings.
 
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Wow, that Big Ten is SOOOOooooo nice. Throwing a lifeline to those poor PAC teams way out there in the west... when there was a P5 team right inside their footprint that was twice on the verge of being left behind.

And they didn't bat an eyelash.

It's all about the money. DUHHHHHHH!!!!!!
So I guess that means the Big10 has decided to merge with the Pac12's best of the best of the Conference of Champions.

I can hear it now from Bill Walton: The Big 10- The Really Big Conference of Champions!
 

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How do these powerhouse brands expect to remain relevant and competitive when they can only play each other and someone has to lose? And if we have to be close -- if not at -- the point where the schools want more money than the value they actually bring the conference. We'll be too saturated with big games -- they will cannibalize each other's ratings.
That’s what the big ten has done a good job of avoiding so far.
 

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All of this expansion stuff is crazy right now but wait until the first contraction. That’s when it will really hit the fan. It’s just a matter of time for when the SEC tells Vandy they no longer have a home. One example of many.

They aren’t going to get rid of their Private School shield in one their biggest and fastest growing markets.
 

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I get the hate for Utah. But they do bring good football. PAC 12 Champions the last 2 years. And will be hated rivals of everyone. Rivalries bring eyeball. Holy War will be epic. You take them because they solidify our base. Big 12 at 16 teams will survive.

At the end of the day if the powers that be in our conference are making decisions based on how insufferable a team's fans are on twitter, they all deserve to be fired. Thankfully I would bet that's not the case.
 

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And if it weren’t for Apple kicking in to pay off the Comcast fiasco, that $13.5M to $19.6M becomes $6M, about the same as AAC.
They will net even less, as Apple announced the schools will be on the hook for production costs for every game
 
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So if the B1G takes 2-4 Pac schools, and the B12 takes 2-4 Pac schools, what happens to the Rose Bowl.
Does it move affiliation to the B12 and B1G?
Does it become an at large NY6 bowl like the Fiesta etc?

Gotta believe it wont end with the end of the PAC.
 

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There was a Jim Williams tweet awhile back that I haven't been able to shake.

Apparently someone at the B1G informed UO and WA that they wouldn't consider expansion unless the 4 corners went to the Big 12 (to avoid the perception that that PAC's collapse is their fault).

At the time I read it, I thought it was great for us because that's all the incentive OR/WA need to push the corner schools out.

Now it may actually be coming to fruition.
I have heard it more than once, including once from the CW/Blum podcast, but UW is more in play for the B12 than we all realizes. At that point, I think OR is just a quick conversation as well. And BY would be foolish to turn them down
 
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It’s not a loophole. They can buy their way out of the GOR.
Maybe DeSantis will implement a surtax on Disney theme park admission fee's and Disney Property hotel stays. FSU's and its boosters have been behind this whole fiasco the last couple years.

Brilliant move- get Disney/ESPN to fund FSU's exit fee and pave the road for FSU to join Big10!
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