Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

KnappShack

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“The One Where Clownzano Says SMU Is Going To PAY THE PAC12 To Get In”

“They’re going to make the Comcast issue go away and take $0 payout for a couple years”

SMU in a desperation move takes a horrible upfront deal that will last just long enough for Oregon and Washington to leave the conference.

Cool. Capture that Dallas market!
 

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SMU in a desperation move takes a horrible upfront deal that will last just long enough for Oregon and Washington to leave the conference.

Cool. Capture that Dallas market!

The funniest part is they go back and forth talking after this comment about all these successful SMU business people alumni and donors. I’m just a country lawyer but that doesn’t seem like great business.

I tell my wife this all the time “Rich people aren’t rich because they spend all their money”
 

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The funniest part is they go back and forth talking after this comment about all these successful SMU business people alumni and donors. I’m just a country lawyer but that doesn’t seem like great business.

I tell my wife this all the time “Rich people aren’t rich because they spend all their money”

I know it's been beaten to death, but SMU is very low on the Dallas sports radar.

To have SMU be in the mix to save the conference already tells me the conference is gutted.

Sad, but true. I really enjoyed that conference.
 

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I know it's been beaten to death, but SMU is very low on the Dallas sports radar.

To have SMU be in the mix to save the conference already tells me the conference is gutted.

Sad, but true. I really enjoyed that conference.
Everything was better with smaller, more regional conferences. Hate to be old man shouts at cloud, but it's just true. But the genie is out of the bottle.

If I was king for a day, there'd be 8 conferences with 9 teams each.
 

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The funniest part is they go back and forth talking after this comment about all these successful SMU business people alumni and donors. I’m just a country lawyer but that doesn’t seem like great business.

I tell my wife this all the time “Rich people aren’t rich because they spend all their money”
My favorites were them rationalizing the delay in getting a deal done because it was widely assumed UCLA wasn’t really going to leave so the initial numbers included having them, and apparently Apple is run by idiots who don’t know what they’re doing.
 
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It's hilarious to even guess which teams they'd want to poach.

Pretty much everything except KU basketball has been deemed trash by them. Was it him that was calling us all QAnon?
Pretty sure that was the Tony Altimore Clown, primarily. Although I think Canzano got in on it, too.
 
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“The One Where Clownzano Says SMU Is Going To PAY THE PAC12 To Get In”

“They’re going to make the Comcast issue go away and take $0 payout for a couple years”

Where's the podcast about how SMU fits the Cal/Stanford culture?

That's the one I'm excited for.
 
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So a school that once got the death penalty in football is now going to save PAC 12 and make them forget about USC and UCLA. Got it.
 

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So a school that once got the death penalty in football is now going to save PAC 12 and make them forget about USC and UCLA. Got it.

It's all about culture fit.

KU, KState, OKState and ISU are absolutely nothing like WSU, Oregon, Utah, Colrado and Oregon State. Light years different.

SMU has always been a spiritual sibling of Cal Berkeley in every way.
 

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It's all about culture fit.

KU, KState, OKState and ISU are absolutely nothing like WSU, Oregon, Utah, Colrado and Oregon State. Light years different.

SMU has always been a spiritual sibling of Cal Berkeley in every way.

I also feel like a spiritual sibling with my cleaning lady.
 

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They consistently have the best reporting using actual data on realignment and ratings, thanks for posting.
I took the 2021 season viewer data, by channel and timeslot. The segmentation / pareto in the 365 article goes pretty well with what I found. Some of the smaller streaming the data was MIA, those are the bottom ones. This is channel regardless of timeslot, but even at similar timeslots on saturday, the trend is same. This is channel and average viewers per game in millions.

CBS 4.5
ABC 3.9
FOX 3.8
NBC 2.5
ESPN 1.7
ESPN2 0.6
BTN 0.6
FS1 0.5
NBCSN, ESPNU, FS2, PEA ??

You got the big 3, NBC and ESPN next, 3 okays, and then just filler content. And the value of those timeslots on those networks are radically different. To the networks, a 4M viewer game is probably worth 20-30x more than a .5M viewer game. It's harder for me to guess what a streamed game on a subscription service is worth; idk how they would add in the incremental subscribers in their calcs. Maybe they don't either, yet.

For the "after dark" slot - there were 27 games at 10pm eastern or later, ESPN avg 1.3M per game (11 games). ESPN2 and FS1 has 12 games between them and averaged 0.4M. Fox had 1 game and got 1.4M. But very roughly, that's 35% less viewers in that timeslot than their earlier timeslots on the same network. That doesn't scream "overpay" for the after dark slots.

I think Yormarks genius was to realize there are only so many high value timeslots on only so many networks, and that the value of the top game or 2 from the Big12 would be better for the network than the 4th or 5th game from the SEC. So he supplied the demand for those last slots and kind of shut the Pac12 out of the high value games. He really understands the entertainment side of the business.