ND could wipe its ass with AAU paperwork and still be readily accepted in the big ten
Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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Exactly. The Big 10 would have take ND even if their academics would be at the bottom of the league.
CycloneErik
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ISU might not want to advertise that, as they're cutting grad programs and departments over the next few years.
That was a really weird Med School announcement to read but kinda informative about arizonas medical issues. No idea if the school is valid or not for another 6 years.
If a school named Nortre Dame, historically an undergrad school, had bad academics, their name would still be Nortre Dame.
Yes I know they do not have bad academics. I only wanted to say the brand name counters any negative points the Big 10 might have towards the school itself.
All those institutions have two big things going for them. Commitment to their development from the state, and positive demographics. ISU enjoys neither. Very disappointing that we aren’t even treading water in terms of our standing.
Nike money? Hell I dont know and dont care. Its only a thing people talk about to make them feel better. I never gave a **** about being in the AAU.
Never ceases to amaze me that people don't care about their own institution as an academic entity.
It isn't necessarily med research, it's NIH research that's driving it.
ISU isn't in for the simple fact that most of the member schools, which don't get much USDA funding, say specifically that USDA funding doesn't really count because it's largely non-competitive (earmark vs. through competitive solicitation). Which of course isn't really true and hasn't been for a good decade.
It's probably a lot easier to get NIH funding with a med school, but schools without med schools still find niches to swim in and get a high percentage of NIH funding.
Here's what ISU is damn good at. It's damn good at getting funds from the likes of the USDA, DOE and industry. And as a result it's damn good at placing students in good jobs. It's also damn good at surveys among employers and destroys most schools in satisfaction among companies hiring its students.
Oregons research spending is less than half of ISUs and far below even the next school above them in AAU, so.....
They have no Engineering nor Med schools, the 2 things AAU cares about.
Not sure what NIH is giving them money to research, Sports Management need a lot of NIH money?
Chemistry and biochemistry departments can get massive NIH grants to do fundamental (non-clinical) health-related research.
You should know how snooty the Big 10 is academically and especially with respect to the research being conducted at an institution of higher learning.
Also, ND's football ratings are not what they once were.
100% not being argumentative but where can you find the employer surveys in relation to satisfaction related to their alma matter? Not even looking at ISU just like is there a site in general that has these to look up?
100% aware that’s why I said that if they didn’t have high academics they wouldn’t be Notre Dame. AAU status would not have limited them or any other institution with that kind of academic background
Understood.
But when Pac12 supporters point to the Big12 being a poor conference academically, they immediately point to KU being the only AAU school (aka only school strong in research). Meanwhile, ISU is a strong research school and receives research funding that would fit within mid-tier Pac12 schools.
They will literally be the guy on the call who is playing GTA with the video off.
IF anyone calls their name, there will be an awkward pause, and "oops had the mute on, what was the question again?"
Things change. It used to be the Big 6. Was that better?
So what if the league has 30 teams as long as ISU has a solid home in a conference that helps to fund the athletic department.
Yeah isn’t ISU in the top 30 for research dollars in the country? I feel like that was brought up on here before
Not sure where ISU ranks currently nationally. Top 30 would pleasantly surprise me. If someone has a good online website with research rankings, would love to see it.
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