Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

[Gunnerclone]

Maybe the Big 12 has talked to other schools from the PAC, but no one has called Utah?

Ton of frustration there:

-joining PAC and **** talking everyone and everything
-Getting to a great spot in the PAC FB pecking order
-Big 12 almost implodes and they laugh
-Big 12 doesn’t implode and adds BYU
-PAC implodes
-Big 12 laughs, BYU laughs
-Only hope lies in Big 12/BYU by proxy
-Big 12 doesn’t need Utah

The clown meme writes itself here

 

[Gunnerclone]

True, but at the same time, the PAC isn't a drivable conference. OR/OR St, Cal/Stanford, USC/UCLA and AZ/ASU are really the only easily drivable combinations where the teams could bus it to the games. Everything else is 5+ hours away. Even schools that seem like they're close really aren't - Salt Lake City (Utah) to Phoenix (ASU), for example, is a 10hr drive!

PAC 12 fans that live in the same city as their schools won’t even drive to their own stadium let alone someone else’s.

 

[MugNight]

True, but at the same time, the PAC isn't a drivable conference. OR/OR St, Cal/Stanford, USC/UCLA and AZ/ASU are really the only easily drivable combinations where the teams could bus it to the games. Everything else is 5+ hours away. Even schools that seem like they're close really aren't - Salt Lake City (Utah) to Phoenix (ASU), for example, is a 10hr drive!

The west blows my mind with how spread out it is. One stat just floors me is that Denver is closer to Chicago than it is to Seattle.

 

[CysRage]

Utah AD is now the entire administration at the U of Arizona.

Don’t blame Greg. He’s not the only Pac 12 media homer to get something wrong

 

[exCyDing]

PAC 12 fans that live in the same city as their schools won’t even drive to their own stadium let alone someone else’s.

And that's the other problem. Just highlighting that I don't think travel considerations for PAC schools are as big of a hurdle as some are making it out to me. They're already used to flying for half their games and adding another 60 minutes on the plane isn't that big of a deal.

 

[CascadeClone]

SDSUs only value is that its in the Pacific TZ, and maybe brings a slight opening to the Cali recruiting market, although I am not sure much. This may be the only reason to add them, as other 4 corner schools may want a footprint in Cali their traditional recruiting land. But only if we get 3 other Pac schools first, and need a 4th, and that still is not a geat choice.

I am NOT on the SDSt train, but I SUPPOSE you could make an argument they could grow and become a thing, if given more money and exposure in a bigger conference. That's kind of what people are saying about UCF and Houston, although they are both a light year farther along than SDSt in just about every category.

But to your point, why take a fixer-upper when you have a couple bigger move-in-ready in Wazzu and Oregon St?

 

[RustShack]

Lord we aren’t taking SDSU.

 

[exCyDing]

I am NOT on the SDSt train, but I SUPPOSE you could make an argument they could grow and become a thing, if given more money and exposure in a bigger conference. That's kind of what people are saying about UCF and Houston, although they are both a light year farther along than SDSt in just about every category.

But to your point, why take a fixer-upper when you have a couple bigger move-in-ready in Wazzu and Oregon St?

It's not a money, exposure or success problem. It's a people in their general area not caring about organized sports problem. San Diego is also kind of a transitory city with a ton of military people that cycle through and others that move there for the weather but find out the city itself kind of sucks.

Florida and Texas are football hotbeds.

 

[KnappShack]

Don’t blame Greg. He’s not the only Pac 12 media homer to get something wrong
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I put it to you, Greg! Isn't this an indictment of our entire American society? Well, you can do what you want to us, but I will not stand by and listen to you bad mouth the United States of America! Gentlemen!

 

[KnappShack]

It's not a money, exposure or success problem. It's a people in their general area not caring about organized sports problem. San Diego is also kind of a transitory city with a ton of military people that cycle through and others that move there for the weather but find out the city itself kind of sucks.

Florida and Texas are football hotbeds.

San Diego sucks?

No. Just no.

 

[simply1]

SDSU is really the only option into SoCal now, whether that’s meaningful of not depends.

 

[isucy86]

Is Mark Harlan frustrated by leaks because they are trying to keep it low key?

Is he frustrated because this could prompt OU and Washington to make a move?

His issues could be 4 areas:

• Dodds reporting that the Big12 has been in touch with all the 4 corner schools multiple times. He might be saying that isn't factually correct.
• To have Big12 coaches (Self, Tang) openly talking about having Pac12 schools (Arizona) in the Big12 is probably overstepping in his opinion.
• In Dodds article he sounds like a Yormark fan boy, gushing about Yormark like a rock star. Does CBS, ESPN, Fox have agenda's in realignment. IMO he might feel CBS has overstepped being neutral. Not too different than the Big12 being upset at ESPN's possibly involvement in getting OuT to the SEC.
• He's probably not a fan of the timing as Conference basketball tournaments and NCAA Tournament kick off. This is supposed to be a period of school and conference excitement and he probably feels the incessant realignment discussion detracts from the events.

It's not a shocker the current 10 Pac schools would strongly prefer to stay together and the Pac12 survive until 2030. What seems like daily piling on by media outlets can't help the Pac10 get the best possible media deal- whether it is Big10 or Big12 rumors.

 

[trevn]

His issues could be 4 areas:

• Dodds reporting that the Big12 has been in touch with all the 4 corner schools multiple times. He might be saying that isn't factually correct.
• To have Big12 coaches (Self, Tang) openly talking about having Pac12 schools (Arizona) in the Big12 is probably overstepping in his opinion.
• In Dodds article he sounds like a Yormark fan boy, gushing about Yormark like a rock star. Does CBS, ESPN, Fox have agenda's in realignment. IMO he might feel CBS has overstepped being neutral. Not too different than the Big12 being upset at ESPN's possibly involvement in getting OuT to the SEC.
• He's probably not a fan of the timing as Conference basketball tournaments and NCAA Tournament kick off. This is supposed to be a period of school and conference excitement and he probably feels the incessant realignment discussion detracts from the events.

It's not a shocker the current 10 Pac schools would strongly prefer to stay together and the Pac12 survive until 2030. What seems like daily piling on by media outlets can't help the Pac10 get the best possible media deal- whether it is Big10 or Big12 rumors.

Dodds is generally a tool so I don't fault him for not liking the report. Doesn't change the fact that Utah sucks.

 

[Cardinal and Gold]

If BY wants to be in all four lower 48 timezones, the four corners won't do that alone. We will need to add a California, Oregon, Washington or Nevada (no viable options) school. Arizona is in Mountain time for the half of the year that matters most to the major college sports.

 

[alarson]

It's not a money, exposure or success problem. It's a people in their general area not caring about organized sports problem. San Diego is also kind of a transitory city with a ton of military people that cycle through and others that move there for the weather but find out the city itself kind of sucks.

Florida and Texas are football hotbeds.

I'm not going to say that I would want San Diego State in the Big 12, but San Diego definitely does not suck

 

[Stormin]

I'm not going to say that I would want San Diego State in the Big 12, but San Diego definitely does not suck

They suck slightly less than the other suckier choices. PAC 12 is finding their media contracts suck because all the replacements suck.

 

[simply1]

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[alarson]

They suck slightly less than the other suckier choices. PAC 12 is finding their media contracts suck because all the replacements suck.

Talking the city, not the school

 

[Gonzo]

It's not a money, exposure or success problem. It's a people in their general area not caring about organized sports problem. San Diego is also kind of a transitory city with a ton of military people that cycle through and others that move there for the weather but find out the city itself kind of sucks.

Florida and Texas are football hotbeds.

We must have visited different places. San Diego and La Jolla are pretty awesome IMO.

 

[Stormin]

Talking the city, not the school

We are talking about Big 12 expansion. We are talking about schools. JFC