Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

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@Clonedogg You can disagree all you want, but it is a fact. Try to make a schedule with an odd number of games and an odd number of teams and see if it works. It is not possible. The total number of games is equal to number of teams times games per team divided by 2 (because every game has 2 teams). If you multiply two odd numbers and divide by 2, it is not an integer.
If there are 15 teams in a conference, are you saying it is impossible to have a 9 game schedule, while not playing 5 teams?
 

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If AZ plus SDSU were suitable enough to get AZ to move, while also taking the PACs top backfill. I don’t see it because AZ should want nothing to do with SDSU getting promoted- they should kill the Pac before allowing any more CA schools at their level. But some think have a conference peer in SoCal is important to them.


Unequal revenue sharing helps their “worth” to PAC. If SDSU is getting paid at a huge discount, they add a few million to the top pac schools. Big 12 interest can help them get more, so it’s not surprising if we’re giving them some leverage
The problem is you could replace SDSU with SMU or BSU, and it's pretty much the same situation. Any of these would likely take a similar deal, and all have limited media value. Any difference in media value between them is in the absolute margins, and won't matter.

Unless the PAC would simply rather die as a conference than elevate any G5 other than SDSU, there's no situation where SDSU's availability will impact the PAC's survival as a power conference.
 

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@Clonedogg You can disagree all you want, but it is a fact. Try to make a schedule with an odd number of games and an odd number of teams and see if it works. It is not possible. The total number of games is equal to number of teams times games per team divided by 2 (because every game has 2 teams). If you multiply two odd numbers and divide by 2, it is not an integer.
What about if you had 15 teams divided into 3 pods/divisions/whatever you want to call them of 5 teams each.
Play your pod, Play 1 of the other 2 pods, equals 9 games. the next year you play the other pod, switching every other year.

Wouldn't that work? Or am I missing something?

Edit: yep totally missed something.
 
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Just listened to the latest “Locked On - PAC 12” podcast. The tone is much different than what Kliavkoff and his media partners like Mandel and Wilner are trying to create.
 
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An interesting side note to this fantasy is how it would adversely hurt the SEC by taking away one of those 'likely' wins. Even 1 win off the elite's schedule could have dramatic effects in the CFP. Hmmmm.
That’s why the playoffs must expand from 4 to 8/12. Justifying why two SEC teams with two losses deserve to be in the four team field would be exhausting.
 

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Just listened to the latest “Locked On - PAC 12” podcast. The tone is much different than what Kliavkoff and his media partners like Mandel and Wilner are trying to create.
You wouldn't happen to have a link? I'd like to listen.
 

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If there are 15 teams in a conference, are you saying it is impossible to have a 9 game schedule, while not playing 5 teams?
It is totally possible. Pod scheduling is a thing of the past, the permanent rivals with rotating the rest of the teams makes any number of teams feasible.
 

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You wouldn't happen to have a link? I'd like to listen.
 
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15 x 9 = 135

Total has to be an even number, unless you're willing to rotate a forfeit win for one team every season.

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The problem is you could replace SDSU with SMU or BSU, and it's pretty much the same situation. Any of these would likely take a similar deal, and all have limited media value. Any difference in media value between them is in the absolute margins, and won't matter.

Unless the PAC would simply rather die as a conference than elevate any G5 other than SDSU, there's no situation where SDSU's availability will impact the PAC's survival as a power conference.

The Pac10's sustainability is not based on adding to the bottom, but protecting the top. If any single team among Oregon, Washington, Utah or Arizona State leave the Pac10- they are done. No ifs or buts.

The Pac10 can't afford to lose teams that bring more money to the table than their projected $30M/school average payout under a new contract.

Plus, the Big12 survived for 10 years with 10 teams. That might be the best path for the Pac12 to maximize TV payouts per school. Obviously, any potential TV Partner is the ultimate decider if they are willing to pay $30M each for SDSU or BSU or SMU.