Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

[ISUCyclones2015]

I’m sure this is because the corner schools were convinced to wait for Pac media revenue estimates before bolting to the Big 12.

A Special Session doesn’t have votes and the agenda was legal advice on the Pac12 Athletics. Probably could’ve been an email

 

[clonedude]

For future reference before this thread ends up in the cave. And also to ensure it does end up in the cave:

How come nobody can EVER spell this correctly? It's Cornbred.... not Cornbread. Drives me nearly as insane as those who still write Paul Rhodes instead of Paul Rhoads.

 

[CascadeClone]

I'd imagine that's only because they recently had Leach.

I think i read that ore st got relegated to the p12network a LOT and as a result their viewership is probably not as bad as the data looks.

Teasing out viewers/interest is tricky w trying to control the variables for network, timeslot, opponent, other games same time, being ranked or not, et al.

 

[GoldCy]

The only thing I woud say is that Oregon State is a better grab than Washington State. Corvallis is actually closer to Portand than Eugene is, and Pullman is in BFW!

People in OR don't wander into Portland. Why do you think it's attractive.

 

[2speedy1]

How come nobody can EVER spell this correctly? It's Cornbred.... not Cornbread. Drives me nearly as insane as those who still write Paul Rhodes instead of Paul Rhoads.


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Well, at least it's just names, and names that have alternative spellings.

I am not very good at spelling and I type fast and don't pay a lot of attention always to typos, only catching them later and editing sometimes.

Spelling Lose, like Loose is the one that always gets me. They are completely different words people.

As in this example sentence....

If your girlfriend is Loose, you might Lose her.

Gotta keep a tight hold.

 

[kcbob79clone]

Arizona Wildcat Authority

 

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[IASTATE07]

I'd give OreSt and WashSt a lifeline and get to 20

What is our obsession with elevating other programs?

Boise St
Memphis
Colorado State
New Mexico schools
San Diego St

We're fighting to stay relevant and we have fans that want to add programs that will take money out of our pockets.

 

[ItsCyence]

Because the Big 12 is not done expanding to the east. That's why.

 

[Acylum]

I think he answered his own question.

 

[Triggermv]

Canzano: Pac-12 turned down $1B offer to sell equity stake in conference

Conference ADs say they're galvanized.

www.johncanzano.com

 

[JP4CY]

I would agree with going Korean for UCLA rather than traditional american bbq places (which mostly suck), should have gone Korean for USC too. I tried these local Hawaiian bbq places and it's like really bad picnic food, I don't get the appeal at all.

I am sad Ames can't be Battles anymore. No frills but some brisket and texas toast was the taste of ISU to me.

I ******* loved Battles when it was on Hayward.
Could seat maybe a dozen people, great lemonade, blues playing, and a bathroom that was 4.5 sq ft.

I also thought George was quirky for having a 4oz or a 5oz portion option. But that 5oz always looked bigger. (TWSS)
And always on onion bun. Always.

 

[Kinch]

The funny thing of the UVA and Alabama is for years after the Civil War Grant and Sherman bragged that to "lick the Alabammy boys" and the "Virginia boys" all they needed were the "Iowa Boys".

 

[HFCS]

I ******* loved Battles when it was on Hayward.
Could seat maybe a dozen people, great lemonade, blues playing, and a bathroom that was 4.5 sq ft.

I also thought George was quirky for having a 4oz or a 5oz portion option. But that 5oz always looked bigger. (TWSS)
And always on onion bun. Always.

Yeah, I had it for lunch maybe 2-3 times a week because I lived at Helser and then at a house about 6 blocks down from there so it was always near me.

Brisket or smoked turkey sandwich and a lemonade, texas toast, that onion bun...it was a quirky place, but awesome. The blues/jazz music playing. I don't think I even like jazz but I like it because of Pavlov's dog conditioning that it makes me want Battle's.

I'm no bbq expert but I still think it's as good as any brisket I've ever had. It was definitely the first REAL bbq I had ever had as an Iowa kid in the 90s. It's not like Iowa was a bbq hotbed back then.

 

[HFCS]

SWC was 4 joined and 4 didn't come along.

Here we have 4 that would want to come.

2 that obviously think they are B10 bound.

And four that nobody knows about, although I haven't heard anything goos for OreSt/WSU.

 

[Gunnerclone]

Colorado Board of Regents meeting previously scheduled for right now...is cancelled.

CANCELED - Special Board Meeting (Executive Session Only)

regents.cu.edu

ANNOUNCEMENT IMMINENT

 

[SolarGarlic]

I was looking at current attendance for Iowa, ISU, KSU, KU, Neb, Missouri and Minn...which is somewhat of an indicator about streaming viewership. It's the area I grew up around so that's what I know.

Even with KU dragging it way down, KU/KSU/ISU get about 50-45k in the stands between them. If they are demoted down to what becomes MAC interest level that becomes more like 12-20k each. This is the big question...how far does interest drop, does it drop at all? Is non-P2 as irrelevant as the MAC is nationally?

Iowa, Neb and Minn are not set up to be powers in the new power 2 unless they have an ideal coach in place. I don't think their attendance and streaming interest increases either if they are traditional bottom half teams. Iowa has found a way to consistently win in B10W...if divisions go away and 3-4 teams with more advantages get added that becomes harder even if their coaching stays stable, let alone they hire a dud or average coach.

I think Iowa can only go down in terms of competing with this new 38-48 team structure. Right now they're good within it (not great) but they aren't set up to withstand a bad coach or two in a row. Nebraska is already struggling and losing interest for the first time ever, adding more power teams won't help that. The money will give them freedom to hire and fire coaches limitlessly, but that instability can hurt too.

I just look at the whole region and don't see how this really helps anybody but media companies short term and exclusively NFL long term.

It might move to a P2-only model eventually, but I don't see that happening in the next 10 years. There will be the P2 and a third conference that garners enough money and interest to be part of the playoff. In that scenario, ISU maintains their current attendance assuming we're included and Campbell keeps us on the same trajectory.

I think a lot of people are jumping the gun on immediate consolidation and exclusion of half of the current P5 schools.

 

[JP4CY]

Yeah, I had it for lunch maybe 2-3 times a week because I lived at Helser and then at a house about 6 blocks down from there so it was always near me.

Brisket or smoked turkey sandwich and a lemonade, texas toast, that onion bun...it was a quirky place, but awesome. The blues/jazz music playing. I don't think I even like jazz but I like it because of Pavlov's dog conditioning that it makes me want Battle's.

I'm no bbq expert but I still think it's as good as any brisket I've ever had. It was definitely the first REAL bbq I had ever had as an Iowa kid in the 90s. It's not like Iowa was a bbq hotbed back then.

I'm not a big sauce guy but the chips he had (maybe Ruffles?) dipped into it was great.

 

[20eyes]

The funny thing of the UVA and Alabama is for years after the Civil War Grant and Sherman bragged that to "lick the Alabammy boys" and the "Virginia boys" all they needed were the "Iowa Boys".

If I'm not mistaken, Iowa sent by percentage the most soldiers to fight in the war of any Union state.

 

[20eyes]

It might move to a P2-only model eventually, but I don't see that happening in the next 10 years. There will be the P2 and a third conference that garners enough money and interest to be part of the playoff. In that scenario, ISU maintains their current attendance assuming we're included and Campbell keeps us on the same trajectory.

I think a lot of people are jumping the gun on immediate consolidation and exclusion of half of the current P5 schools.

Assuming also that Campbell sticks around...